MI5 - British police officers attended terrorist camps

#1
MI5 warned Scotland Yard that policemen in its ranks were suspected of attending terrorist training camps, it can be disclosed.

The policemen lost their jobs when their security clearance was revoked by senior officers after checks were carried out because of fears of “sleepers” in the ranks.
The Sunday Telegraph can also disclose today the identity of one of the policemen suspected of being at a terror camp in 2001.
Abdul Rahman had been a constable for almost three years when MI5 warned that he might have visited a training camp in Pakistan when he travelled there.
He resigned rather than be dismissed from the force and is now suing Scotland Yard for compensation. He says he is entirely innocent and has never been to a terrorist training camp.

MI5 feared British police attended terrorist camps - Telegraph
 
#2
MI5 warned Scotland Yard that policemen in its ranks were suspected of attending terrorist training camps, it can be disclosed.

The policemen lost their jobs when their security clearance was revoked by senior officers after checks were carried out because of fears of “sleepers” in the ranks.
The Sunday Telegraph can also disclose today the identity of one of the policemen suspected of being at a terror camp in 2001.
Abdul Rahman had been a constable for almost three years when MI5 warned that he might have visited a training camp in Pakistan when he travelled there.
He resigned rather than be dismissed from the force and is now suing Scotland Yard for compensation. He says he is entirely innocent and has never been to a terrorist training camp.

MI5 feared British police attended terrorist camps - Telegraph
And so the (alleged) source isn't discovered, he resigns and claims racism and (presumably) constructive dismissal. Hmm, I must remove the cynical chip:
A spokesman for Scotland Yard said: “Mr Rahman, a former police constable, is bringing two employment tribunal claims against the Metropolitan Police Service alleging race discrimination and employment equality.
 
#3
Are you bored because MI5 did they're job or because the OP bored you by bringing this to your attention?

Was aimed at 3123 whatstahmajig ↑↑
 
#5
Because if it was worth any kind of consideration he would never have been given the luxury of resignation, it wouldn't have come to the attention of the press until limitations on data and OSA and its nonesense, its a non story and as such, ****ing bone..
I didn't read it that way. He loses his clearance, the appeal confirms it so instead of dismissal he resigns. I'd say it was quite newsworthy, not headlines; that a copper loses his clearance. The 'sexing it up' is standard journo porn imo:
A week before the appeal hearing in June 2007 he was told that if the hearing confirmed the removal of his CTC clearance he was likely to be dismissed.

The appeal hearing was conducted by Mr Clarke, who upheld the decision to remove his CTC clearance. Mr Rahman resigned immediately.
“If police officers lose their CTC they are effectively unemployable,” said a police source.

“They cannot be allowed to access the Police National Computer, or other vital things in the course of their day-to-day work.”
If he wins his tribunal, fair play to him.
 
#7
PLEASE let it happen to Daliel.
 
#8
PLEASE let it happen to Daliel.
What will become of Pascoe?

In fairness, I think one, three, one two, three, two has it right. Cheap réportage.
 
#9
What will become of Pascoe?

In fairness, I think one, three, one two, three, two has it right. Cheap réportage.
I agree but it doesn't stop me wishing.
 
#11
He didn't resign out of principal though or because he fancied another career, it would have been suggested to him that he may wish to consider resigning. He takes umbrance, goes to ET, its placed in the publc domain and then a junior journo court waller picks it up and bobs yer mothers brother.

My view of it being that it may have been interesting if they had actually accrued evidence, formulated a case and proceeded - but it seems not, as such it seems a non story, non event and poor journo skills, any cnut can hang about an ET or courtroom...
It's often the case, whether we agree with it or not; that officers see the writing on the wall and jump rather than wait to be pushed in disciplinary matters. That's presumably what the hearing was about. I'm not aware that the press get access to disciplinary hearings.

It seems his appeal will have the evidence that led to the removal of his clearance. We'll see.
 
#12
Well, system works? Good news story for once.

He'll have his appeal and doubtless that will be that. You'd have to note that in the current climate, NSY would have to be on very solid grounds to get rid of him.

Mr Rahman’s father, who lives in Poplar, east London, said: “He is a very genuine and very honest man. He has nothing to hide. He is a family man.

“The allegations against him are untrue. He is very pious, he prays five times a day and I think he didn’t fit in in the police because of that.”
MI5 feared British police attended terrorist camps - Telegraph

I'm sure we can look forward to lurid claims of police islamophobia and racism, regardless of the truth of the allegations. He could turn into a Dreyfuss for our times, I suppose he can play the role even if the dismisal is upheld.

I am sure the Telegraph is keen to follow the story, as even on a basic check (no pun intended) they would seem to relish a chance to cross swords with the National Muslim Police Association.

The National Association of Muslim Police is in denial over Islamist terrorism – Telegraph Blogs
 
#13
We seem to have lost our cold war skills. If this man did attend a training camp, he should have been 'turned', and made to spy for us. Otherwise he would have had a fatal accident or terminal illness. The good news is that he is still alive, so there is still time to speak to him again.
 
#14
We seem to have lost our cold war skills. If this man did attend a training camp, he should have been 'turned', and made to spy for us. Otherwise he would have had a fatal accident or terminal illness. The good news is that he is still alive, so there is still time to speak to him again.
Surely he has to at least become a Deputy Assistant Commissioner and then defect, if we've playing Moscow rules
 
#16
Surely he has to at least become a Deputy Assistant Commissioner and then defect, if we've playing Moscow rules
Or die a painful, lingering death after drinking some glow in the dark tea, if we're playing Moscow Rules 2.0:twisted:

One must move with the times, old chap!:wink:
 
#20
If I had to guess who leaked this story to the press, I would say it was his legal team.
Probably with the intention of getting a more generous settlement than he would get
if his hearings succeeded.
Hoe the Met sticks with it.
 

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