MH17: Russia liable for downing airliner over Ukraine


I've just read the comments. Most of them agree that Tim Anderson's a moron for thinking the airplane's livery was mistaken for Putin's plane. Doh.

What an intelligent theory hahahahahaha.

So, this chap reckons that livery that wouldn't have been visible from the ground was important, but the fact that one aircraft had two engines while the other had four wasn't important.

Nor the fact that the flight would have been pre determined, in a designated flight path and with a specific call sign.

I sense straws being clutched :)
 
Ha-ha-ha. Even degenerative Weedheads did not blame any Russian official. You just coming out as even more degenerative creature than the Weedheads.
You're not seeing the trend in Russian guilt?
KAL007, MH17, Chernobyl, Skripal, The Kursk, Litvinenko, anti Putin journalists, anti Putin politicians etc, etc.

Silly Russian.
 
What an intelligent theory hahahahahaha.

So, this chap reckons that livery that wouldn't have been visible from the ground was important, but the fact that one aircraft had two engines while the other had four wasn't important.

Nor the fact that the flight would have been pre determined, in a designated flight path and with a specific call sign.

I sense straws being clutched :)
Or indeed that Putins aircraft didn't enter Ukrainian airspace
 
I expect some reference to his ethnic origin to be made if the article is responded to.
 
5 years have passed after the catasrophe.
17 July 2014 the airliner was downed.
RIP
My sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims.

I don't know what exactly has happened but at this moment I regard the following version as the most probable (while not the only possible).
MH17 was downed by the separatists who used not functioning BUK launcher that they captured previously. Electronics, control system, radar could be absent or not fuctioning but the laucher could be used as just a platform to fire BUK missile using visual aiming. A good specialist having a target with predictable flight path could position the launcher to allow the missile to do the job itself.
Not only the separatists but also Moscow, Kiev and Washington allegedly are well aware about the details. But for different reasons they prefer to keep silence.
The separatists don't wish to confess that they downed MH17
Moscow could send AD specialist(s) or/and BUK missiles.
Kiev would have to accept that the separatist were unable to recognise MH17 as civilian airliner and thus Kiev bears full responsibility that the airspace over war zone was not closed.
Washington no doubt has satellite images and knows the truth but the truth would be more politically damaging for Kiev than for Moscow/separatists.

Note, that whereabout of the captured (by the separatists) BUK launcher is unknown. Dutch investigators never tried to find it, to inspect the launcher - when it was used the last time to fire BUK missile. But why? It is an open question.
 
5 years have passed after the catasrophe.
17 July 2014 the airliner was downed.
RIP
My sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims.

I don't know what exactly has happened but at this moment I regard the following version as the most probable (while not the only possible).
MH17 was downed by the separatists who used not functioning BUK launcher that they captured previously. Electronics, control system, radar could be absent or not fuctioning but the laucher could be used as just a platform to fire BUK missile using visual aiming. A good specialist having a target with predictable flight path could position the launcher to allow the missile to do the job itself.
Not only the separatists but also Moscow, Kiev and Washington allegedly are well aware about the details. But for different reasons they prefer to keep silence.
The separatists don't wish to confess that they downed MH17
Moscow could send AD specialist(s) or/and BUK missiles.
Kiev would have to accept that the separatist were unable to recognise MH17 as civilian airliner and thus Kiev bears full responsibility that the airspace over war zone was not closed.
Washington no doubt has satellite images and knows the truth but the truth would be more politically damaging for Kiev than for Moscow/separatists.

Note, that whereabout of the captured (by the separatists) BUK launcher is unknown. Dutch investigators never tried to find it, to inspect the launcher - when it was used the last time to fire BUK missile. But why? It is an open question.
Wait, what? Are you suggesting that the BUK missile was aimed and fired on a ballistic trajectory? And that is the most probable????
 
I love the way you refer to Ukrainians fighting to maintain their country as an independent state as 'seperatists'.

I've been a soldier and can recall how hard it was to hit the centre of a target at 600 yards with a SLR. I've got to say, anybody who can hit a plane flying at 30,000 feet (10,000 yards) with a missile using only visual aiming is near superhero status to me.
 
5 years have passed after the catasrophe.
17 July 2014 the airliner was downed.
RIP
My sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims.

I don't know what exactly has happened but at this moment I regard the following version as the most probable (while not the only possible).
MH17 was downed by the separatists who used not functioning BUK launcher that they captured previously. Electronics, control system, radar could be absent or not fuctioning but the laucher could be used as just a platform to fire BUK missile using visual aiming. A good specialist having a target with predictable flight path could position the launcher to allow the missile to do the job itself.
Not only the separatists but also Moscow, Kiev and Washington allegedly are well aware about the details. But for different reasons they prefer to keep silence.
The separatists don't wish to confess that they downed MH17
Moscow could send AD specialist(s) or/and BUK missiles.
Kiev would have to accept that the separatist were unable to recognise MH17 as civilian airliner and thus Kiev bears full responsibility that the airspace over war zone was not closed.
Washington no doubt has satellite images and knows the truth but the truth would be more politically damaging for Kiev than for Moscow/separatists.

Note, that whereabout of the captured (by the separatists) BUK launcher is unknown. Dutch investigators never tried to find it, to inspect the launcher - when it was used the last time to fire BUK missile. But why? It is an open question.
You don't want to be offering condolences, you need to be offering apologies on behalf of your country.

And you need to stop speaking crap, obviously.
 
Wait, what? Are you suggesting that the BUK missile was aimed and fired on a ballistic trajectory? And that is the most probable????
Buk missile system - Wikipedia
The missiles require a radar lock to initially steer the missile to the target until the missile's on-board radar system takes over to provide final course corrections.
So it is sufficient to launch BUK missile in the right direction until its on-board radar would capture the target that is doomed after it happens.
 
5 years have passed after the catasrophe.
17 July 2014 the airliner was downed.
RIP
My sincere condolences to the relatives of the victims.

I don't know what exactly has happened but at this moment I regard the following version as the most probable (while not the only possible).
MH17 was downed by the separatists who used not functioning BUK launcher that they captured previously. Electronics, control system, radar could be absent or not fuctioning but the laucher could be used as just a platform to fire BUK missile using visual aiming. A good specialist having a target with predictable flight path could position the launcher to allow the missile to do the job itself.
Not only the separatists but also Moscow, Kiev and Washington allegedly are well aware about the details. But for different reasons they prefer to keep silence.
The separatists don't wish to confess that they downed MH17
Moscow could send AD specialist(s) or/and BUK missiles.
Kiev would have to accept that the separatist were unable to recognise MH17 as civilian airliner and thus Kiev bears full responsibility that the airspace over war zone was not closed.
Washington no doubt has satellite images and knows the truth but the truth would be more politically damaging for Kiev than for Moscow/separatists.

Note, that whereabout of the captured (by the separatists) BUK launcher is unknown. Dutch investigators never tried to find it, to inspect the launcher - when it was used the last time to fire BUK missile. But why? It is an open question.
As the launcher was tracked to back inside Russia it would be up to Russia to allow investigators access.

Your silly and infantile theories also forget that an investigation has been held and has been concluded, and as usual Russians are wanted in connection with this crime.

No matter how hard you ‘as someone with zero involvement or knowledge of what happened’ like to pretend there are others who have seen the evidence, apportioned blame and are far more credible than you.

Are you now admitting your earlier ‘air to air’ shoot down theory was no more than made up rubbish, and that the photo you posted to ‘prove’ your case was a fake photo?

We know it was a fake, but the question is whether you are now admitting it was a fake?
 
Buk missile system - Wikipedia

So it is sufficient to launch BUK missile in the right direction until its on-board radar would capture the target that is doomed after it happens.
But why would members of Russia’s 53rd regiment do that when their Russian BUK system was fully working?

You will of course be aware of the intercepted radio traffic demonstrating that Russian military personnel fired the missile.
 
So, even though the facts have been investigated and been brought out in public we are perhaps going to see a new set of theories from the poster known as:
‘KGB rats in a cellar-faked satellite photos-Israel was to blame for Syria shooting down a Russian Aircraft-Resident’

Perhaps he might theories that MH17 was shot down by anyone in the world who wasn’t Russian, who made their own BUK missile in their back garden, fired it without a Radar or perhaps even any propellant..........then forced multiple people to take fake vids of the missile system entering Russia, then for good measure launched a fake satellite to take fake pictures of the fake launch site

The funniest thing about the nonsense above is that not only is it any more stupid than what KGB would try to propose, but also contains similar ideas to those he has already posted.
 
The problem with the multiple player identity game our amateur trolls have is the lack of continuity. To lie, my simple minded trolls, you need to have a good memory. Your managers are letting your side down very badly, they are failing to correctly brief the many pretending to be the few.

I take comfort from the fact that they will not be the one's who pay the price for their incompetence.
 
Buk missile system - Wikipedia

So it is sufficient to launch BUK missile in the right direction until its on-board radar would capture the target that is doomed after it happens.
But wouldn’t it have locked on to the fighter aircraft YOU, yes YOU SAID WAS IN THE AREA, and closer to the BUK than MH17..........

Or are you now saying you were lying when YOU said MH17 was shot down by a fighter aircraft?
 

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