MH17: Russia liable for downing airliner over Ukraine

#43
I wouldn't put money on it.
Indeed. That bet was money down the drain.

The Soviet apologist just couldn’t help himself, could he. Drawn to it like flies to ordure.

Or maybe just ordered to post wibble.

Still, it was good of him to get all of his whataboutery nonsense into his first paragraph. It normally comes after all else has failed so maybe it’s him passing us a coded message that he is only going through the motions to get a few roubles to buy cabbage.
 
#44
So @KGB_resident what's today's excuse? We've had 'big boys did it and ran away', we've had 'you can't prove nothink' have we had 'the dog ate my homework' yet? Or are you going to face facts and accept your country's complicity in the mass murder of civilians and your part in the cover-up?
 
#45
If it wasn't the Russians then they seem to have been intensely relaxed about someone else using Buks to shoot down civvy airliners on their border in airspace they control. It would illicit a bit more than silence and misinformation.

Russia seems to have a history of shooting down airliners as well and this is just the latest chapter.
 
#46
........of course an uncharitable mind would ask if this penchant for destroying airlines also covered an 'accident' a few years back that left the Poles with a few high-level governmental vacancies........I mean it's not as if the Russians have 'previous' for murdering Poles and then denying it for years.......
 

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#49
........of course an uncharitable mind would ask if this penchant for destroying airlines ......
That's interesting. Aeroflot's still going, so do you suspect the Ivans had a hand in the failure of GermanWings? Maybe it was also their fault (the hidden hand) that BOAC hit the ditch.:smile::smile::smile:

MsG
 
#51
If it wasn't the Russians then they seem to have been intensely relaxed about someone else using Buks to shoot down civvy airliners on their border in airspace they control. It would illicit a bit more than silence and misinformation.
The airspace was under control Kiev authorities. There were Ukrainian radars in the area. There were Ukrainian BUK launchers in the area as well. But there was is any information about movement of Ukrainian BUKs. There is no any information from Ukrainian radars.
Russia seems to have a history of shooting down airliners as well and this is just the latest chapter.
Korean KAL007 violated Soviet airspace in the area where any aircraft could be shot down without warning and the pilot was well aware about it. The pilot had to respond to calls of Soviet dispatchers. It hadn't been done. American dispatchers had to inform Soviet authorities about violation of Soviet airspace. It hadn't been done.

US warship downed Iranian civil aircraft inside Iranian airspace. Washington didn't recognize its responsibility, though paid compensation.

Russian airliner was downed over the Black sea during drills by Ukrainian S-200 missile. Kiev didn't recognize its responsibility, though after years paid compensation.
 
#54
So KGbs, leaving aside your 'whataboutism' (you keep trotting the same excuses - get a better ones) how do you feel knowing that Russia stands condemned in an international report? Do you personally feel any guilt for your lies here?
 
#55
That's interesting. Aeroflot's still going, so do you suspect the Ivans had a hand in the failure of GermanWings? Maybe it was also their fault (the hidden hand) that BOAC hit the ditch.:smile::smile::smile:

MsG
Pathetic Bugsy.

BOAC didn’t “hit the ditch”. It was merged with BEA to create British Airways.

Try harder.
 
#56
The airspace was under control Kiev authorities. There were Ukrainian radars in the area. There were Ukrainian BUK launchers in the area as well. But there was is any information about movement of Ukrainian BUKs. There is no any information from Ukrainian radars.

Korean KAL007 violated Soviet airspace in the area where any aircraft could be shot down without warning and the pilot was well aware about it. The pilot had to respond to calls of Soviet dispatchers. It hadn't been done. American dispatchers had to inform Soviet authorities about violation of Soviet airspace. It hadn't been done.

US warship downed Iranian civil aircraft inside Iranian airspace. Washington didn't recognize its responsibility, though paid compensation.

Russian airliner was downed over the Black sea during drills by Ukrainian S-200 missile. Kiev didn't recognize its responsibility, though after years paid compensation.
But you previously tried to convince us that MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian Su-25 flying above its ceiling, by a pilot skilled enough to group his entire cannon shots on the cockpit by deflection shooting using a gunsight designed for ground targets.
 
#58
Korean KAL007 violated Soviet airspace in the area where any aircraft could be shot down without warning and the pilot was well aware about it.
Don’t you claim to be an ex AD officer KGB? You should know that’s not how it works.

Even in the KAL007 incident the Soviets claimed to fire warning shots, so even by their own admission it wouldn’t have been shot down ‘without warning’
 
#59
Korean KAL007 violated Soviet airspace in the area where any aircraft could be shot down without warning
If only the Soviet Union hadn't signed-up for the ICAO agreement for handling airspace violations by civil airliners.....

I thought you were PVO? Were Officers in the Red Airforce really so ignorant?

Remember when I painfully took you through SAM employment for beginners when you were still denying a BUK launch? I can do the same for you about Airspace patrolling if you like.......

I've read the transcript of the KAL007 GCI, the pilot knew his was breaking the international law and repetitively questioned his controller, but 'orders were orders' - ops normal for Russians
 
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