Met chief rejects RUC slur claim

#1
Met chief rejects RUC slur claim

Sir Ian Blair said he did not want to offend anybody
The Metropolitan Police Commissioner has said a row over his remarks about the RUC is "a storm in a tea cup".
Sir Ian Blair had paid tribute to those who transformed policing in NI from an "almost completely paramilitary organisation, to an emblem of hope".

The DUP said it was a "disgrace" and urged him to withdraw his remarks.

Sir Ian said he was describing a police force that during the Troubles had to be supported by heavily-armed military, and he did not intend any slur.

"It's a storm in a tea cup - of course I don't want to offend anybody," he said.

"I was using the word as we would use it in England, because that would be a description of a force that faced the horrific terrorist threat that it did.

"I think this is Ulster politics choosing words so that every word is weighed in a different direction."

On Tuesday, Sir Ian had told an Ulster Television reporter: "You would have to be entirely insensitive not to have noticed that there has been change here.

"I pay tribute to all the people from so many different walks of life... in making the changes from what was, as you say, a paramilitary, almost completely paramilitary organisation, to an emblem of hope."

The PSNI replaced the old Royal Ulster Constabulary in 2001 as part of wide-ranging reforms of policing in Northern Ireland, recommended in the Patten Report.
 
#2
So we're meant to believe that a man of his rank, standing and (questionable?) intelligence has no concept of the impact such wording would have? Aye right. The man is a friggin disgrace. An unreserved apology wouldn't go amiss, but how likely is that? I'll not hold me breath.
 
#4
foggy_balla said:
So we're meant to believe that a man of his rank, standing and (questionable?) intelligence has no concept of the impact such wording would have? Aye right. The man is a friggin disgrace. An unreserved apology wouldn't go amiss, but how likely is that? I'll not hold me breath.
looked like a 'paramilitary' force to me, more guns than an an NRA wankfest, armoured landies, 'special' units with more firepower than a US carrier battle group....

just coz nordies go looking for offence and choose to use/abuse the english language for their own political ends why should we give a fcuk?
 
#5
The RUC where not a "terroist" force i had reltives served and paid the consequence and got killed. The RUC had to do a job which had to be done stop terroisim.
 
#6
So Sir Ian experiences the 'Isle of Semantically Challenged English'. Though not one of my favourite Chief Constables, I do feel a modicum of sorrow for him. He's viewed by his ilk as being one of the more politically astute players around at the present time.
He would have gone up in my estimations if he had publicly warned Hugh Orde the current CC of the PSNI, off, over leaving one of his Scotland Yard officers pregnant.
 
#8
DutyCrow said:
Met chief rejects RUC slur claim

Sir Ian Blair said he did not want to offend anybody

That's his fcuking problem. He tries to appease everyone but that's not his job. He is the Commissioner of the Police of the Metropolis, he should be using what's left of his spine to sort out some of the ills of this country, not casting aspersions on fellow Police Officers. This man has form for back stabbing, for example after the publication of the Macpherson Report on the Lawrence murder. He was one of the first to shout "Yah boo sucks" at a force composed mainly of honest hardworking peelers when they were accused of "instituional racism". A force he now seems determined to drive into the ground. I am not a Met officer myself but I work with guys and girls who are and some of them refuse point blank to replace worn out Warrant Cards dating from John Stevens' era because they don't want Blair's name on their authority. He is hated like no other copper and I for one am glad he's not my Chief Constable.


Edited for mlarr spelling
 
#9
Romeo_47 said:
The RUC where not a "terroist" force i had reltives served and paid the consequence and got killed. The RUC had to do a job which had to be done stop terroisim.
i'm reading it very carefully but i can't find IB's reference to the RUC being a terrorist force...

or is it that you don't know the actual meaning of the word 'paramilitary' - or indeed you do know the actual meaning of the word but are willfully ignoring it so as to take offence for political purposes?

which would obviously be a first...
 
#12
Noooo....

The RUC were an even handed, fair, unbigoted police for the whole province, not worrying what religious background you came from and embracing all sides of the community...

how could people possibly besmirch their good character and whiter than white policing methods..

Shame on you all.

what IS the fucking fuss about actually?
 
#13
I don't see it as a slur. Of course the RUC was "para-military". It had to be to cope with the environment it had to work in. This hysteria is because the term has evolved into a single word "paramilitary" and is used to describe civilian organisations who are organised on a military basis, i.e. terrorist organisations.

The RUC used military weapons, military style uniforms and military tactics. It was, and still is, (as PSNI) a para-military police force. Just the same as the Italian Carabinieri or the French Gendarmerie. Exactly the same can be said about UK mainland police firearms teams or American SWAT.
 
#14
My father started out his working life a as copper in the Northern Rhodesian Police - he has always described them as a paramilitary police force - it's never occurred to me to think of that as a derogotary term and I would have described the RUC in the same terms.
 
#16
DutyCrow said:
"It's a storm in a tea cup - of course I don't want to offend anybody," he said.

"I was using the word as we would use it in England, because that would be a description of a force that faced the horrific terrorist threat that it did.

"I think this is Ulster politics choosing words so that every word is weighed in a different direction."

On Tuesday, Sir Ian had told an Ulster Television reporter: "You would have to be entirely insensitive not to have noticed that there has been change here.

"I pay tribute to all the people from so many different walks of life... in making the changes from what was, as you say, a paramilitary, almost completely paramilitary organisation, to an emblem of hope."
This man is a complete moron. If he doesn't want to 'offend' people the most sensible thing he can do is to get his own patch in order and to stop pontificating about matters which are way outside his remit. It's now almost routine for Sir Ian Blair to get it drastically wrong on all counts. He should be fired.
 
#17
Pity the term 'paramilitary' is now commonly applied to those organisations who it is not politically korrekt anymore to call 'terrorist'.

This man is therefore applying a full measure of equivalence between PIRA and the RUC. Or rather, Hain is, as you can be sure that they're his words.
 
#18
Dzerzhinskiey said:
I dont think, following the dictionary's definition, that the RUC are or ever were para-military and I'm not sure they would appriciate the moniker. I think the connection that the DUP are trying to make with that idiot Blairs comments are tenuous and typical of them and their top boy.
The RUC were and the PSNI are para-military. Simple as that. Any police force which is required to use military style weapons and uniforms is.

The RUC and associated specials were para-military long before the term was coined in connection with the UVF, UDA, PIRA, IRA, CIRA etc etc etc. Unless you're trying to tell me that Crusader Land Rovers and Shorland Armoured cars are the norm for police forces throughout the civilised world?
 

Similar threads

New Posts

Latest Threads

Top