Now,I've been in since the late 80's and one of the things I used to look at in awe,wonder and jealousy when I was a junior/sprog was Promotion Drinks in the WO's and Sgts' Mess. The day was looked forward to mischievously by those involved and the following day we were all regaled by what did or didnt happen in the Mess and the ensuing carnage afterwards. I always thought to myself "Thats what its all about, I fancy a bit of that." When I eventually made it into the Mess the whole thing had been enormously diluted and today just proved it for once and for all. I'm not suggesting that things from the past go unchanged but promotion to the Mess and then further promotion within it is surely worth celebrating? Today,my Mess was open from 1200 to 1500 and no amount of cajoling from the lowest Sgt to any numbers of RSMs present was going to change that. Things were going well, no bother and a jovial time had by all but 1500 was ENDEX and that was it. This certainly wasnt the case 10-15 years ago and to me is further proof of the civilianisation and misunderstanding of our dearest traditions by on camp "agencies" etc. What do you reckon?