Haha go on then.
You're getting incoherent now.
Would you like to have another go?
Haha go on then.
I am awaiting your incisive review of the evidence.You're getting incoherent now.
Would you like to have another go?
Here is a commentary on 2 studies in the lancet oncology. Somewhere between 1000 and 3000 additional deaths.
Thank you, that's what I was trying to post![]()
Cancer expert Karol Sikora accused over honorary professorship claim
Imperial College seeks legal advice to prevent arch-critic of NHS cancer care from using title associated with the universitywww.theguardian.com
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Again, for interest, where do you get the 1000 - 3000 deaths from. The commentary doesn't say that; it's ambiguous; it says 'thousands'. The 2nd study just covered four cancers.
Did you just make that up?
I don't know why they chose those four.
Lung cancer wasn't one of them and that's the UK's biggest cancer killer; it kills 21% of all cancer victims.
You just made those numbers up, didn't you, you little tinker!
we estimated the impact of delays in diagnosis that are attributed to the lockdown measures put in place in the UK in March, 2020, for four major tumour types: breast, colorectal, lung, and oesophageal
You are really incredibly dense. please stop. From the paper:
I'm sure you must be able to get some reading lessons somewhere.
FYI chaps I'mNOT taking sides as I think WHey - Aye you have a point that covid is all the Drs are capable of thinking and diagnosing . It's as though all other illnesses have disappeared off the planet.
My own experience on Friday In Plymouth was interesting . At the hosptial I was attending the staff Looking after me said that it has been very quiet there throughout the whole time and that itu wasn't full, or even near to full..and no one they knew or worked with had caught covid. . They think that the run of pneumonias last November to Jan was when it hit the hosptial and then it tailed off .
FYI chaps I'mNOT taking sides as I think WHey - Aye you have a point that covid is all the Drs are capable of thinking and diagnosing . It's as though all other illnesses have disappeared off the planet.
My own experience on Friday In Plymouth was interesting . At the hosptial I was attending the staff Looking after me said that it has been very quiet there throughout the whole time and that itu wasn't full, or even near to full..and no one they knew or worked with had caught covid. . They think that the run of pneumonias last November to Jan was when it hit the hosptial and then it tailed off .
Well well well, sorry you couldn't hide your terrible reading comprehension.
FYI chaps I'mNOT taking sides as I think WHey - Aye you have a point that covid is all the Drs are capable of thinking and diagnosing . It's as though all other illnesses have disappeared off the planet.
My own experience on Friday In Plymouth was interesting . At the hosptial I was attending the staff Looking after me said that it has been very quiet there throughout the whole time and that itu wasn't full, or even near to full..and no one they knew or worked with had caught covid. . They think that the run of pneumonias last November to Jan was when it hit the hosptial and then it tailed off .
One of the studies they comment on predicts somewhere between 600-1700, which they say is likely an underestimate, and the other between 3200-3600, which they say is an overestimate. So, between 1000 and 3000, ish.
Their headline figure of additional deaths directly attributable to a 3-month NHS lockdown was 181–542, across modelling scenarios, followed by 401–1231 additional lives lost due to the backlog of uninvestigated patients
Therefore, the resultant figures of additional deaths of 3291–3621 are likely to be an overestimation for these four cancers
But not only that patients aren't being treated in ITU , but that the hospital wasn't admitting many covid patients at all.On LBC radio, I think Sunday?, they had an NHS exec on discussing the current crisis - apparently hospitalised COVID patients are not going into ITU anymore or something along those lines. Cannot remember exactly what was said, only that they had learned so much about the disease that treatment had improved a lot now.
Both of those stats are in the article though?