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Flight,

happy to talk about my treatment. PM'd you. Don't want to bore the general Arrse community, it gets a bit technical.

@AlienFTM was kind enough to visit me in the recovery ward while I was banjaxed, if you want some collateral. He wasn't too impressed with having to wear a surgical mask for the duration. The nurses also. Unpleasant photo of me knocking about somewhere. I lost two stone, couldn't walk to the paper shop without stopping for a rest - which for a former marathon runner was....perplexing.
Recovery took/is taking consistent effort on my part.



And the late Dale The Snail (aka Sluggy aka arPrincess, who art in Heaven* ) was similarly kind enough to send me a care package including enough Smarties to choke a New Forest pony and a rather malevolent-looking large stuffed Beaver.




How very dare you...I'm outraged.

The correct phrase favoured by Joe Six-pack is
<< Gooks >>












* It's a well-known left footer club in that there London....she is planning a come back when Elvis returns to us . Keep watching the skies....
Five years ago I had what they call walking pneumonia over here, never heard of it before. It is in most cases not hospital worthy, they just dose you for a fortnight and tell you to take it easy. For about 6 months I could find myself needing to take a breather climbing the stairs, and could still feel the effects on my chest a year later. The really stupid thing is at the time I was trotting 6 miles a day, it was late spring early summer so the weather was good. I noticed pain in the upper part of my lungs and eventually severe shortness of breath. Then the funny thing was when I called the Doc to make an appointment and told them my symptoms the Doc called me back and ordered me to come in NOW as he thought I was having, or had had a heart attack.
 

Goatman

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yeah, it's a bit of a bugger.

So, the word in general troops - steer clear of pneumonia. It f***s you up some.
 

Pop Smoke

Swinger
Cut Lunch - nah its not that easy. She has most prob dialled 111 and they have advised her to go to the hospital not using public transport - dozy cow most prob does not realise that Uber is alos public transport. If you send an Ambulance you then have to get kitted up (think CBRN) and then have to decontam aforementioned taxi after it has had dozy cow ferried in. When she arrived most probably took out half an A&E as everyone she has been in contact with is now ....... yep Coronafied. So it then works its way around A&E which most prob have people in - who have low resistance or comorbidities (Fat jakey smokers) . Your then on a 3 nurse to one patient ratio - whereas it should be the other way round. Now your talking overstretch and all the pre planned surgery and other stuff has to get cancelled. On top of that we have more croaking - have you seen the waiting time for a crematorium. So where do you store the bodies?
About 10 yrs ago we took some temp warehouse space in Nottingham, it was a c.50,000 ft2 shed. Its primary purpose was an overspill morgue......overspill for what kind of event I thought.......
I wonder what other local authorities have up their sleeves :oops:
 
About 10 yrs ago we took some temp warehouse space in Nottingham, it was a c.50,000 ft2 shed. Its primary purpose was an overspill morgue......overspill for what kind of event I thought.......
I wonder what other local authorities have up their sleeves :oops:
Might be National Emergency Mortuary Arrangement Procurement
There's an FOI on some of the info
 
Five years ago I had what they call walking pneumonia over here, never heard of it before. It is in most cases not hospital worthy, they just dose you for a fortnight and tell you to take it easy. For about 6 months I could find myself needing to take a breather climbing the stairs, and could still feel the effects on my chest a year later. The really stupid thing is at the time I was trotting 6 miles a day, it was late spring early summer so the weather was good. I noticed pain in the upper part of my lungs and eventually severe shortness of breath. Then the funny thing was when I called the Doc to make an appointment and told them my symptoms the Doc called me back and ordered me to come in NOW as he thought I was having, or had had a heart attack.
Hmmmmmmm - this is my story:

In 2016 I went to Singapore. About day 4 I came down with a shocking fever. Exhaustion, sweating, coughing, tired. I got back to Sydney with a struggle and it took about 8 weeks to recover.

Last year whatever it was returned with a vengeance. I was sleeping around 16 hours a day, I lost 12 kg in weight in about two weeks, I developed a terrible productive cough, I felt exhausted and TBH was confused at times. I was permanently short of breath, I had bad night sweats, and I could not walk up even the slightest hill without resting.

Finally I saw a doctor. I had a battery of tests. Heart ok, lungs ok, liver, kidneys etc etc all ok. Blood pressure ok, but “some levels” were very low. I also had s noise in one lung.

I went onto antibiotics. I made a massive improvement. I felt 30 again and could run a half marathon. Then two weeks after the antibiotic course ended I slipped back to the old problem. The doctor organised more tests. She was worried because the blood levels had fallen a lot further.

I went onto another (different) antibiotic course. After about 2 weeks I was feeling fine again. Now I am slowly slipping back into the problems.
The doctor wants me to have a camera up my bum and one down my throat. I have not booked an appointment yet. (Indian with a gopro)
 
Hmmmmmmm - this is my story:

In 2016 I went to Singapore. About day 4 I came down with a shocking fever. Exhaustion, sweating, coughing, tired. I got back to Sydney with a struggle and it took about 8 weeks to recover.

Last year whatever it was returned with a vengeance. I was sleeping around 16 hours a day, I lost 12 kg in weight in about two weeks, I developed a terrible productive cough, I felt exhausted and TBH was confused at times. I was permanently short of breath, I had bad night sweats, and I could not walk up even the slightest hill without resting.

Finally I saw a doctor. I had a battery of tests. Heart ok, lungs ok, liver, kidneys etc etc all ok. Blood pressure ok, but “some levels” were very low. I also had s noise in one lung.

I went onto antibiotics. I made a massive improvement. I felt 30 again and could run a half marathon. Then two weeks after the antibiotic course ended I slipped back to the old problem. The doctor organised more tests. She was worried because the blood levels had fallen a lot further.

I went onto another (different) antibiotic course. After about 2 weeks I was feeling fine again. Now I am slowly slipping back into the problems.
The doctor wants me to have a camera up my bum and one down my throat. I have not booked an appointment yet. (Indian with a gopro)
This sounds similar to the problems I had a couple of years ago. Frequent chest infections. Led to an x-ray followed by a CT scan and a referral to a specialist, who, after several months of sputum tests diagnosed an infection by a particular hard to shift bacterium. The 2 week antibiotics courses were shutting down the bloom but not killing the infection completely as this particular bacterium is very good at hiding. Result was a 2 year course of a cocktail of 3 antibiotics, which is about to end, and I haven't had a single problem in that time. Of course, who knows what will happen when I finish.
 
This sounds similar to the problems I had a couple of years ago. Frequent chest infections. Led to an x-ray followed by a CT scan and a referral to a specialist, who, after several months of sputum tests diagnosed an infection by a particular hard to shift bacterium. The 2 week antibiotics courses were shutting down the bloom but not killing the infection completely as this particular bacterium is very good at hiding. Result was a 2 year course of a cocktail of 3 antibiotics, which is about to end, and I haven't had a single problem in that time. Of course, who knows what will happen when I finish.
Pretty well exactly how I view things. Some hard to shift shit from the original infection in Singers, antibiotics controls it but doesn't kill it.
 

Flight

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Presumably if antibiotics helps then such things as discussed above were not viral.

What do they do for viral pneumonia?
 
Presumably if antibiotics helps then such things as discussed above were not viral.

What do they do for viral pneumonia?
My problem was bacterial, not viral, although, when it first occurred I just assumed I had a dose of the flu and chose to ride it out without visiting my GP.
I would assume that for viral pneumonia they would primarily only treat with paracetamol, fluids etc., with an option of anti-virals if they thought they might help, and possibly antibiotics to prevent secondary bacterial infection (not to treat the viral infection). I'm pretty much just guessing here.
 

Goatman

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Book Reviewer
Hmmmmmmm - this is my story:

In 2016 I went to Singapore. About day 4 I came down with a shocking fever. Exhaustion, sweating, coughing, tired. I got back to Sydney with a struggle and it took about 8 weeks to recover.

Last year whatever it was returned with a vengeance. I was sleeping around 16 hours a day, I lost 12 kg in weight in about two weeks, I developed a terrible productive cough, I felt exhausted and TBH was confused at times. I was permanently short of breath, I had bad night sweats, and I could not walk up even the slightest hill without resting.

Finally I saw a doctor. I had a battery of tests. Heart ok, lungs ok, liver, kidneys etc etc all ok. Blood pressure ok, but “some levels” were very low. I also had s noise in one lung.

I went onto antibiotics. I made a massive improvement. I felt 30 again and could run a half marathon. Then two weeks after the antibiotic course ended I slipped back to the old problem. The doctor organised more tests. She was worried because the blood levels had fallen a lot further.

I went onto another (different) antibiotic course. After about 2 weeks I was feeling fine again. Now I am slowly slipping back into the problems.
The doctor wants me to have a camera up my bum and one down my throat. I have not booked an appointment yet. (Indian with a gopro)
GP's are hopeless at Tropical diseases...they go by guess and God.

Get thee to a tropical medicine specialist pronto.

And in other cheery news.....


The first person to be diagnosed with coronavirus in London reportedly breached recommended NHS guidelines and travelled to Lewisham hospital in an Uber taxi.

The woman, who is thought to be a Chinese national, arrived at A&E unannounced and went straight to the reception desk to report her symptoms. Two staff members from the south London hospital are now in isolation at home after coming into contact with the woman. Her diagnosis brings the total number of known cases in the UK to nine.

Nearly 2,000 passengers and crew aboard the MS Westerdam have started to disembark the ship after Cambodia yesterday offered safe harbour. The passengers, none of whom have tested positive for the coronavirus, were greeted by Prime Minister Hun Sen, who handed them flowers.
 
GP's are hopeless at Tropical diseases...they go by guess and God.

Get thee to a tropical medicine specialist pronto.
The Doctor who is dealing with me is a young English lass, and she seems to be genuinely concerned. But her inexperience is leading her down the trial and error path. We know that Antibiotics is helping, a camera up my arse will not.
 
But her inexperience is leading her down the trial and error path.

We know that Antibiotics is helping, a camera up my arse will not.
Perhaps she just wants to make you feel better.
 
The Doctor who is dealing with me is a young English lass, and she seems to be genuinely concerned.
I think there is a case for seeking out the right kind of doctor.

An uncle of mine who had served in Italy, Greece and the old Tripolitania area and particularly Libya for about ten years post ww2 suffered from extreme tiredness and shaking with hot and cold fevers. It was always described as flu by the local English doctors. This went on for years. Happened a couple of times a year then calmed down.

In the early seventies, it got really bad one year and I 'phoned the on call doctor who happened to be Indian or Pakistani in appearance. He took one look and diagnosed it as malaria.. Whilst quite a long course of treatments followed, he never suffered from this illness again which had caused him and us lots of worry.

I think doctors are like the rest of us. If they don't come across a job spec regularly, they get rusty and eventually forget their training.
 

Flight

LE
Book Reviewer

Supply chain issues are just starting to bite....
 

Flight

LE
Book Reviewer
Interesting way of monitoring things , as in supply chain type whatsit....via.... TomTom!


Not all that much different to Wuhan..


Meanwhile there seems to be an unusually large number of cargo vessels anchored around the major ports in China.
 

Flight

LE
Book Reviewer
Oh great...

The test they are using is shite....


Whistleblower doctor wot snuffed it tested negative multiple times... And someone tested negative 6 times...

So those 1000 and odd people who have tested negative in the UK...... Presumably this is the same test....
 

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