MERS Coronavirus warning

You detected your first case a month after the UK. You don't know when the first case arrived.
Yes exactly the same as the U.K.

The U.K. was only testing people who had been hospitalised

As I’ve said, 80% of people with it will have mild (some none) symptoms
 
One problem with remote management is that it can be easy for misunderstandings to arise when you don't meet someone face to face at least occasionally. They say something in an email, you take it differently than the way they intended, you bark back at them, they get all defensive, etc. Regular routine video contact might help with some of this by giving you a better picture of how someone is feeling at the time.
This, MS Teams, Skype and Zoom are used as much as email, email last resort really. You do need to visit and see the team every now and again.
 
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No way is it the Spanish. If you really want to see truculence, you need to work avec les Francaise. They are unbelievable, not only will they never answer any question with a recognisable response, they will go out of their way to do anything other than what you recommend. This especially applies if there is a common standard that is not French.
French Candians were the go to feckwits in Brussels when I was there - always wanted to be front of the queue regardless of how trivial their request.
 
Britain.

We're f*cking ace.

You can see why other countries want to hang out with us.

We are

A point I should probably make on this, and its exactly the same point that applied to Brexit and food logistics, is that we have hundreds of thousands of professionals working in logistics and food supply.
Not only does the fate of the country rest on being able to feed itself, hundreds of thousands of peoples jobs and careers depend on it too.
Thousands of companies, hundreds of thousands of people, tens of thousands of vehicles, millions of square feet of warehousing, containers ports, international logistics routes
All dedicated to moving food to the end consumer, all highly professional.
This is the day job of tens of thousands of people. All of who's ability to pay the rent and feed their kids depends on keeping this boat afloat.

On top of that, the NUF reckons that UK producers can feed 70% of the populations needs at current production levels.
That's before we factor in Irish production (and if shit gets really bad Ireland will be cut off from its european markets, the UK won't be cut off from Irish produce)
Nor will we be cut off from the rest of the world where foodstuff comes in by ship (there are no U-Boats in this game, shipping will continue)

Their is an abundance of fuel supply (very little public use at the mo)
Maintenance providers are still operating
DVSA and the Traffic Commissioners are being very practical and helpful
There are thousands of drivers desperate for work as other industries have come to a halt.

If companies like ours survive economically then the country will still eat. The logistics part is easy. Its the economic part that's a struggle at the moment.
 
What's the c*nt saying? We should rejoin the eu to end coronavirus?
why not find out rather than make things up in an attempt to show off to people on the internet?
 
Kinnegar Army Barracks beside Palace Barracks is to be turned into a temporary morgue. Belfast can currently only hold 200 odd bodies at one time, I think.

One of the climate controlled warehouses has been rented by the Department of Justice.
IIRC read in tabloids ....Hangar 2 @ BHX will be turned into one, and Essex council building one in carpark of a cem / crem at Upminster. 2Wondered why there and looked on map - close to Thames, reasonable Distance from Excel, and kinda odd the M25.

Let’s hope to hell neither of these temporary establishments are filled like in Italy and now Spain...

cheers and all the best
 

SDFA

Old-Salt
And we are significantly below the predicted rate of infection on 17 March now because we have flattened the curve with the more basic measures.

our infection rate is currently going up because
(a) we Widely broadened the testing criteria 2 weeks ago (to anyone with 1 symptom) and those results are now coming out
(b) community transmissions have increased because each case will on average give it to 2.5 others
(c) it will take 2 weeks for any measures to have any effect (so where the U.K. was telling people to self isolate for 1 week if they had symptoms here it is 2 weeks)

for the first 45 after the first confirmed case the U.K. was only testing those who had been hospitalised.
I believe the UK testing regime is called 'allocation of resources'

If, at the beginning of the outbreak there were a finite number of testing kits available, and the test provides an 80% negative result, who do you prioritise? Admissions to hospital to ensure you place the patient in the correct ward, or to Mr / Mrs Hypochondriac, who after watching sky / bbc news of doom, demands a test 'just to be sure'?

Ireland is in the lucky position of having a small, relatively dispersed, population and can use its allocation of test kits as it wishes. Boris and his team decided that the sick should be tested first to protect others.

As to your assertion that we only have to isolate for 1 week, that policy changed on Mon 16 Mar. How do i know, one of my work colleagues put himself in isolation cause his boy had a fever initially for 1 week, changed to 14 days by the evening.

You claim that your country has less infection spread due to the social measures put in around schools etc. The week 16-20 Mar, I was inspecting in schools around Armagh, Markethill etc and although the school premises were open, there were no pupils in attendance. Isolation without government direction, who'd have thought of that?

At danger of repeating myself, again, what works for your country may not work for ours.

Please, from this momemt on, desist repeating yourself and your claims to who is managing best?

If,,at the end of all this, we are proved to have taken the wrong direction and have endangered lives, I can assure you we have more than enough numpties in this country who will make it loud and clear who they think is at fault. What we do not need is another chicken little from a foreign country choppsing off because he thinks he is right.

Stay safe
 
On top of that, the NUF reckons that UK producers can feed 70% of the populations needs at current production levels.

and if push comes to shove, all those farmers growing vast swathes of corn and Rapeseed to grown EU subsidies and feed Germanys appetite for bio fuels can switch to growing real food.


ETA: and with just two tomatoe plants, we had more than enough tomatoes last year not to buy a single tomato all season.
 
Spain 825 deaths in the past 24 hours.

Spain and Italy are being hammered at the moment, which probably put a light against the Chinese numbers.

Archie
 
Across the A2 from Palace, on the coast north-east of the airport.
Yes. As Holywood RFC is passing you on your right as you head for Bangor Kinnegar is on the other side of the railway lines on your left. Always stuck out in my mind because there was no wriggly tin, just a fence so you could see rows of parked up vehicles and Nissen huts but rarely any pax.
 
Spain 825 deaths in the past 24 hours.

Spain and Italy are being hammered at the moment, which probably put a light against the Chinese numbers.

Archie
the Chinese Government is now aggressively peddling the line that Coronavirus originated in Italy.
 
the Chinese Government is now aggressively peddling the line that Coronavirus originated in Italy.
And starting rumours that it was caused by Hong Kong activists
 
On top of that, the NUF reckons that UK producers can feed 70% of the populations needs at current production levels.
That's before we factor in Irish production (and if shit gets really bad Ireland will be cut off from its european markets, the UK won't be cut off from Irish produce)
Nor will we be cut off from the rest of the world where foodstuff comes in by ship (there are no U-Boats in this game, shipping will continue)
Maybe one of the very few "benefits" we might see after this is a revision of our food and agriculture production with a focus on local sustainability, food security and environmental impact.

The last fifty years have seen a totally distorted agriculture sector across Europe, and indeed the rest of the world. The overproduction of certain foods (butter mountains, wine lakes, grain silos etc) is a disgrace (more so if you want to go all humane and consider that the best part of two billion people are either undernourished or actually starving).

My favourite example is the carambola or star fruit. A useful food in S.E Asia but in the UK air freighted from S. America and only ever used here as a pretty garnish. Then binned. Completely bonkers.

Maybe converting a few golf courses to agriculture might have social benefits.
 
Maybe one of the very few "benefits" we might see after this is a revision of our food and agriculture production with a focus on local sustainability, food security and environmental impact.

The last fifty years have seen a totally distorted agriculture sector across Europe, and indeed the rest of the world. The overproduction of certain foods (butter mountains, wine lakes, grain silos etc) is a disgrace (more so if you want to go all humane and consider that the best part of two billion people are either undernourished or actually starving).

My favourite example is the carambola or star fruit. A useful food in S.E Asia but in the UK air freighted from S. America and only ever used here as a pretty garnish. Then binned. Completely bonkers.

Maybe converting a few golf courses to agriculture might have social benefits.
Let us hope this globalization b*llocks is finally f*cked off at the high port.
 
[On top of that, the NUF reckons that UK producers can feed 70% of the populations needs at current production levels.
That's before we factor in Irish production (and if shit gets really bad Ireland will be cut off from its european markets, the UK won't be cut off from Irish produce].



Waking early and not having to go to work I have started listening to “Farming Today” on BBC 4 . 06:45.

Yes the NFU and the farmers are saying they can produce 70% but that’s not tomorrow. Last week there were three articles of note.

1. Due to the flooding earlier this year many farmers have not been been to drill seed .

2. Small producers need to self isolate. One farmer was saying they have fruit and purple broccoli ready. One person has to pick the items in a poly tunnel.

Pass said items to the washer in another area. They need to pass it onto the packer.

They call the distribution driver as he drives up the packer has to put it outside then walk away . So a job that took 1/2 an hour is now taking 2 Or more. This was a small place with three working staff, one gets the lurgi and ?

3. Brexit means many of the seasonal pickers were not going to come anyway, now none will be coming And its nearing the time when the fruit needs to be picked. Where will the farmers be getting the pickers from? Also Most pickers worked side by side, most farmers had on site accommodation. Living side by side? Not going to work.
 

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