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And now the UK regulator (MHRA) says there may be a link and the AZ should not be given to those under 30.

Here, in Spain, it is being given to 45 to 65 year olds. The over 70s are having Pfizer or Moderna and the Janssen vaccine will start on 17th April but no age range announced.

There wouldn't be enough Moderna vaccines for the under 45s but Janssen have promised a shedload of their vaccine although, from experience, the manufacturers don't seem to be able to keep up with their promises.
 
I think there would have to be a much bigger issue before the risks of the AZ vaccine outweighed the benefits.

In the UK there had last week been something like 1 case of blood clots for every 600,000 vaccines given.

There was a thing on the news earlier and they made the point that covid is known to cause blood clots, so they can’t rule out the possibility that those affected had covid.

If it was 1 chance in 100000 you'd take it.
It's that or a very good chance of getting covid with more than an unlucky chance of needing hospitalisation.
 
And now the UK regulator (MHRA) says there may be a link and the AZ should not be given to those under 30.

Here, in Spain, it is being given to 45 to 65 year olds. The over 70s are having Pfizer or Moderna and the Janssen vaccine will start on 17th April but no age range announced.

MHRA issues new advice, concluding a possible link between COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and extremely rare, unlikely to occur blood clots​

MHRA not recommending age restrictions in COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca vaccine use
 

MHRA issues new advice, concluding a possible link between COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and extremely rare, unlikely to occur blood clots​

MHRA not recommending age restrictions in COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca vaccine use

Yet:
Britons under 30 should be offered an alternative to AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine due to mounting evidence linking it to rare blood clots, UK health chiefs ruled today.

Which one is it then?
 
Yet:
Britons under 30 should be offered an alternative to AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine due to mounting evidence linking it to rare blood clots, UK health chiefs ruled today.

Which one is it then?
That's straight off the gov website. I'll put it up if I can get me fat fingers working.
 
That's straight off the gov website. I'll put it up if I can get me fat fingers working.
Interview on Radio 4, the World at One - the scientists were being scientists: In other words there is no evidence that the vaccines were responsible, but a cluster of cases have been noted.

Remember that correlation is not causation - and that there could be a random confounding factor that has not been accounted for. Until they can find a sufficiently large cohort of subjects with near identical lifestyle factors to crunch the data, or they find a single linking factor in those effected then it will be “we don’t know yet’.

I am currently reading about this, with the study cited being Doll R and Hill AB (1950). ‘Smoking and carcinoma of the lung; preliminary report’. BMJ ii (4682): 739-48. In this they removed the confounding factors of employment types by studying a cohort that was similar, namely doctors. If they had included all employment types (including for example, miners at an asbestos mine) then the data would have been skewed. Sod being an epidemiologist!
 
Yet:
Britons under 30 should be offered an alternative to AstraZeneca's coronavirus vaccine due to mounting evidence linking it to rare blood clots, UK health chiefs ruled today.

Which one is it then?
Playing it safe?

They want as many people to take the vaccine as possible, so it makes sense to offer alternative to the AZ vaccines so people feel a bit more confident about taking it.
 
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Interview on Radio 4, the World at One - the scientists were being scientists: In other words there is no evidence that the vaccines were responsible, but a cluster of cases have been noted.

Remember that correlation is not causation - and that there could be a random confounding factor that has not been accounted for. Until they can find a sufficiently large cohort of subjects with near identical lifestyle factors to crunch the data, or they find a single linking factor in those effected then it will be “we don’t know yet’.

I am currently reading about this, with the study cited being Doll R and Hill AB (1950). ‘Smoking and carcinoma of the lung; preliminary report’. BMJ ii (4682): 739-48. In this they removed the confounding factors of employment types by studying a cohort that was similar, namely doctors. If they had included all employment types (including for example, miners at an asbestos mine) then the data would have been skewed. Sod being an epidemiologist!
I mentioned on another thread that one of the things they are looking at in terms of what might be the cause of the blood clots, assuming there is a connection between vaccination and blood clots, is birth control pills. Birth control pills are already a risk factor for causing blood clots, and it is conceivable that something in the vaccine aggravates that through a drug interaction.

If the cause turns out to be an interaction between birth control pills and the vaccine, then the solution may be to tell women to not take pills 'x' days on either side of receiving the vaccine.

By the way, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines contain PEG, which is known to cause potentially fatal reactions in some people. Several people in the UK have had PEG reactions, although all survived. One of the screening questions you get in Canada prior to vaccination is to ask if you have a known sensitivity to PEG.
 
Here is the COVID-19 summary for Wednesday.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on April 7

Daily deaths in Brazil have set a new record there, with more than 4,000 in the past day.
In the Americas, Brazil has for the first time reported a 24-hour tally of COVID-19 deaths exceeding 4,000. That made Brazil the third nation to cross the threshold. Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has long downplayed the risks of the coronavirus and remains fully against lockdowns as too damaging to the economy.

The B117 variant is now the most common form of the virus in the US.
The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, says the strain, formally known as B117, is "now the most common lineage circulating in United States." The strain has been shown to be more transmissible and infectious among younger Americans, which Walensky says contributed to rising case counts in recent weeks.

The UK have started using the Moderna vaccine.
In Europe, the U.K. is administering the first doses of the Moderna vaccine, the third COVID-19 shot authorized in the country. The rollout comes as the U.K. medical regulator provided an update about the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine, which has been given to more than 18 million people in Britain.

Belgium have announced a 4 week ban on using the Oxford-AztraZeneca vaccine on people under the age of 56. They said however that this makes no practical difference to their overall vaccination effort, as people in that age group wouldn't be getting vaccinated this month anyway.
Meanwhile, Belgium has imposed a four-week ban on administering the AstraZeneca-Oxford vaccine to people under age 56. Health Minister Frank Vandenbroucke says the ban will be reassessed after a month and that it should have little impact on the vaccination campaign since few from that age group are in line to get shots this month.

The above qualification by the way is something very important to keep in mind when reading this sort of news. Many countries have very limited supplies of vaccine and not all announcements of this sort will actually cause a delay in the vaccination schedule.

France ran into trouble with their computer systems when they switched to on-line learning. Many children couldn't connect with their lessons.
In France, the switch to online learning has not been smooth for the country's 12 million pupils. Many children couldn't connect Wednesday and teachers scrambled to find solutions after more than seven months of in-person classes.

The EU have denied blocking the shipment of 3.1 million doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine to Australia.
The European Union denied blocking shipments of 3.1 million doses of AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine to Australia, as the bloc steps up scrutiny of vaccine exports to address shortages.

India set a new record for daily infections, with 115,736. A number of major cities have imposed curfews to try to slow the rate of spread.
In the Asia-Pacific region, India has hit another new peak with 115,736 coronavirus cases reported in the past 24 hours. New Delhi, Mumbai and dozens of other cities are imposing curfews to try to slow the soaring infections.

Thailand say they have found 24 cases of the B117 variant, their first of this type.
Thailand has diagnosed 24 cases of the coronavirus variant B117 first detected in Britain, a virologist said, its first reported domestic transmission of the highly contagious mutation.

South African signed a contract with Pfizer for 20 million doses of vaccine.
In Africa, South Africa signed an agreement with Pfizer for 20 million dual-shot vaccine doses, boosting plans to start mass vaccinations from April.

Iran set a new record for daily new infections, with 20,954. The problem is apparently to a large extent the result of people travelling about the country for Persian New Year.
In the Middle East, Iran shattered its daily record for new coronavirus infections for the second consecutive day, with 20,954 cases reported.

The Wednesday record comes amid one of the most severe surges of COVID-19 in Iran to date. It follows a two-week public holiday for Nowruz, the Persian New Year, when millions travelled to vacation spots across the country and gathered in homes in defiance of government health guidelines.

Oman have said that citizens arriving in the country must self-isolate at home upon arrival, but will not be required to quarantine at official quarantine facilities.
The Supreme Committee to Combat Coronavirus in Oman said Omani citizens coming to the Sultanate through various land, sea and air ports will be exempt from the mandatory institutional quarantine but still must quarantine at home.
 

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Here is the COVID-19 summary for Wednesday.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on April 7

Daily deaths in Brazil have set a new record there, with more than 4,000 in the past day.


The B117 variant is now the most common form of the virus in the US.


The UK have started using the Moderna vaccine.


Belgium have announced a 4 week ban on using the Oxford-AztraZeneca vaccine on people under the age of 56. They said however that this makes no practical difference to their overall vaccination effort, as people in that age group wouldn't be getting vaccinated this month anyway.


The above qualification by the way is something very important to keep in mind when reading this sort of news. Many countries have very limited supplies of vaccine and not all announcements of this sort will actually cause a delay in the vaccination schedule.

France ran into trouble with their computer systems when they switched to on-line learning. Many children couldn't connect with their lessons.


The EU have denied blocking the shipment of 3.1 million doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine to Australia.


India set a new record for daily infections, with 115,736. A number of major cities have imposed curfews to try to slow the rate of spread.


Thailand say they have found 24 cases of the B117 variant, their first of this type.


South African signed a contract with Pfizer for 20 million doses of vaccine.


Iran set a new record for daily new infections, with 20,954. The problem is apparently to a large extent the result of people travelling about the country for Persian New Year.


Oman have said that citizens arriving in the country must self-isolate at home upon arrival, but will not be required to quarantine at official quarantine facilities.

Why the hell haven't the Brazilian Mob, like for example the Comando Vermelho guys, not just schwacked Bolsonaro? He's killing off their customer base after all, and that's their job - after raking in as much cash for their various nefarious products, of course. Kennedy got rubbed out for much less than presiding over 4000 deaths in one day.

 
Why the hell haven't the Brazilian Mob, like for example the Comando Vermelho guys, not just schwacked Bolsonaro? He's killing off their customer base after all, and that's their job - after raking in as much cash for their various nefarious products, of course. Kennedy got rubbed out for much less than presiding over 4000 deaths in one day.
4,000 deaths isn't that bad in national terms. The UK had over 1,800 deaths in one day in January this year and Brazil's population is significantly larger than the UK's (approximately 211 million compared to 67 million according to the mighty Google).

It's not directly comparable for any number of reasons but as a percentage of population (19 deaths per million compared to 27 deaths per million) they are doing better than our worst days.
 
Just walked into my local grocery store and noticed that the pharmacy is now administering the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. The supply of J&J vaccine is starting to ramp up in NC and it looks like the authorities are allocating them to retail locations and local doctors’ offices due to the less restrictive refrigeration requirements. Demand is still outstripping supply so you still need to make an appointment, but in a few weeks they should be able to start taking walk ups.
 
The UK apparently sent AstraZeneca vaccine to Australia on the quiet after the EU blocked vaccine shipments to them.
UK-made AstraZeneca vaccines sent to Australia - Sydney Morning Herald

The first 300,000 British-made doses landed at Sydney airport on February 28 – a month after the European Commission adopted curbs on the export of vaccines produced in the EU, the newspaper said.

Another large batch arrived on an Emirates passenger plane in March, well after Italy and the European Commission formally blocked an application by AstraZeneca to ship 250,000 doses to Australia, it added.

The Australian and UK government are apparently not commenting on these reports.

I haven't seen any news reports saying of there has been any EU comment on this.
 
The UK apparently sent AstraZeneca vaccine to Australia on the quiet after the EU blocked vaccine shipments to them.
UK-made AstraZeneca vaccines sent to Australia - Sydney Morning Herald



The Australian and UK government are apparently not commenting on these reports.

I haven't seen any news reports saying of there has been any EU comment on this.
Of course it never happened.. This EU propaganda completely fails to account for the components and where they were produced. The inference seems to be that the UK is merely a consumer and not a contributor, despite the research, innovation and cooperation that lead to vaccine breakthroughs. Should a country the size of the UK be expected to have produced as much vaccine as the EU and all it's constituents?
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Here's the COVID-19 summary for Thursday.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Thursday

The African Union plan to buy vaccine from Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) rather than SII of India. SII will still provide vaccine to Africa via COVAX.
The African Union has dropped plans to buy COVID-19 vaccines from the Serum Institute of India and is exploring options with Johnson & Johnson, the head of the Africa Centres for Disease Control and Prevention told reporters on Thursday.

The institute will still supply the AstraZeneca vaccine to Africa through the COVAX vaccine-sharing facility, said Dr. John Nkengasong, but the African Union would seek additional supplies from Johnson & Johnson.

India hit another record in daily infections, with 126,789, along with 685 deaths.
In the Asia-Pacific region, new coronavirus cases in India hit a record Thursday at 126,789, while deaths rose 685 in the past 24 hours, the highest since November.

Dozens of cities and towns are imposing night curfews to try to contain the surge but the federal government has refused to impose a second nationwide lockdown for fear of hurting the economy.

Indonesia's plans to buy 100 million doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is meeting delays.
Indonesia's health minister said the schedule for around 100 million doses of AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccines faced delays.

South Korea will decide over the weekend whether to resume giving the Oxford-AztraZeneca vaccine to people under age 60.
Health officials in South Korea said they will decide whether to resume administering AstraZeneca vaccines to people 60 and younger over the weekend. The injections were paused while regulators in Europe reviewed a possible link between the shots and rare blood clots.

Australia, the Phillipines and Spain join the list of countries limiting the use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine to people over a certain age (the age varies depending on the country). It should be pointed out again that for many of these countries this makes no practical difference to their vaccination plans at this time.

Meanwhile in Mexico the president said he plans to get vaccinated with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine to show his confidence in it.
In the Americas, Mexico's president says he plans to get the AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine to boost confidence in the shot.

The vaccine is one of several being used for people over 60 in Mexico's current round of vaccinations. President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, 67, say the benefits far outweigh any risks of a rare blood-clotting disorder.

Brazil set another daily death record, with 4,249, taking their total so far up to more than 345,000. I should point out that the official totals are likely a major undercount, as many people are either too poor to get tested, or the medical system has been too overwhelmed to be able to spend time to determine a cause of death.
In Brazil, the country saw a new record of 4,249 coronavirus deaths in a day. More than 345,000 people have died of COVID-19 in Brazil, making it the second-deadliest outbreak of COVID-19 after the United States.

Iran set another record for new infections, with 22,566. The rise is being blamed on people travelling and meeting for a recent big annual holiday.
In the Middle East, Iran has hit a new coronavirus infection record for the third straight day, reporting 22,586 new cases. The country is grappling with a spike after millions defied government guidance against gathering and travelling during Nowruz, the nation's biggest holiday.

The new case count Thursday pushes Iran's total during the pandemic over two million. The additional 185 reported deaths increased the confirmed total to 63,884 deaths in the country of 83 million.

Bahrain have said that next month people who can prove they are vaccinated will be able to go to gyms, restaurants, sporting events, conferences, cinemas, and other mass events.
The Gulf Arab kingdom of Bahrain has announced that starting next month, residents who can prove that they've been vaccinated against the coronavirus will be able to attend gyms, indoor restaurants, mass sporting events, conferences, spas and cinemas.


Canada has received it's first shipment of vaccine through COVAX, the international vaccine buying scheme. The WHO backed scheme bundles purchases from "self funding" smaller wealthier nations with those of poorer countries to allow the latter to get better terms and "fairer" access to vaccine.
Canada receives first shipment of COVID-19 vaccines through global vaccine initiative
Canada contributed $440 million to COVAX, with half being an order of vaccine for itself, and half being a donation to poorer countries.

This first shipment is of 317,000 doses of the Oxford vaccine made by SK Bioscience in South Korea. Another 1.6 million doses are expected by the end of June.

COVAX have delivered 38 million doses to more than 100 countries since its first delivery to Ghana in February.
COVAX has delivered 38 million vaccine doses to over 100 economies since making its first international delivery to Ghana in late February, the WHO said in a press release today.
 
Of course it never happened.. This EU propaganda completely fails to account for the components and where they were produced. The inference seems to be that the UK is merely a consumer and not a contributor, despite the research, innovation and cooperation that lead to vaccine breakthroughs. Should a country the size of the UK be expected to have produced as much vaccine as the EU and all it's constituents?
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I don't know how the accurate the numbers are, but here's a summary.
  • EU - 110 million doses, 42% exported.
  • India - 125 million doses, 44% exported.
  • US - 164 million doses, - 0% exported.
  • China - 235 million doses, 49% exported.

The EU are exporting a smaller proportion of their production than India or China are. They have also produced significantly less than the US, despite having a larger population.

The chart gives UK vaccine production as being 15 million doses. If the UK had exported vaccine production in the same proportion as the EU, that would have amounted to 6.3 million doses. That amounts to less than 6 per cent of EU production, which would not make much difference to the EU's vaccine supply.

Of course if the UK were exporting vaccine, not all of those exports would be going to the EU. They would be exporting to the entire world. Let's suppose that a third of UK exports went to the EU. That would amount to less than 2.5 per cent of total amount of the vaccine supply which the EU has retained for itself.

So, the EU seem to be obsessing over something that would not make a significant difference to their situation.
 
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