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Now tell me, do you support your previous positions in the wake of Monday’s roadmap?
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Tell me what my previous positions are, and I'll tell you if I support them or not.
If it's masks, probably not.
Handwashing and social distancing; yes, definitely.
Lockdowns? As a last resort.
Vaccines, most definitely.
I think gov's being overly cautious, but I'm happy enough not to whine about it and see what happens.
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Here's the COVID-19 summary for Friday.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Friday
Canada approved the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine for all adults 18 years of age or older. The shot has an efficacy rate of 62 per cent.
A top Canadian health specialist said in a other news story to not read too much into efficacy rates. A single number doesn't give you the full picture of how well they work. He said that so far as the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is concerned, it will protect you as well against severe illness, hospitalisation, or death as well as the Pfizer-Biontech or Moderna vaccines do, and that's what we're looking for.
South Korea started vaccinating people in care homes.
France ordered a weekend lockdown in Nice and the surrounding area.
The capital of Brazil, Brasilia, have gone into a 24 hour lockdown.
Ivory Coast have become the second country to receive vaccines through COVAX, receiving 504,000 doses of Oxford vaccine from SII in India.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Friday
Canada approved the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine for all adults 18 years of age or older. The shot has an efficacy rate of 62 per cent.
A top Canadian health specialist said in a other news story to not read too much into efficacy rates. A single number doesn't give you the full picture of how well they work. He said that so far as the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine is concerned, it will protect you as well against severe illness, hospitalisation, or death as well as the Pfizer-Biontech or Moderna vaccines do, and that's what we're looking for.
South Korea started vaccinating people in care homes.
France ordered a weekend lockdown in Nice and the surrounding area.
The capital of Brazil, Brasilia, have gone into a 24 hour lockdown.
Ivory Coast have become the second country to receive vaccines through COVAX, receiving 504,000 doses of Oxford vaccine from SII in India.
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The US are closer to approving the Johnson & Johnson (Jansen) vaccine.
Johnson & Johnson's single-shot COVID-19 vaccine endorsed by U.S. advisers
That isn't all that interesting in itself, but there is something notable in the story about the vaccine itself. Unlike other vaccines, this one required only a single dose. However, the US are looking at whether making it a two dose vaccine would improve effectiveness.
As mentioned in a previous post there is a problem with reading too much into "efficacy" numbers because they don't mean quite as much as many people think they do.
Part of the problem is that different vaccines have been tested against different mixtures of viral variants. This is a result of them running trials at different times in different places where different mixtures of viruses were prevalent. This means that many of these comparisons are apples to oranges.
Another is that all of these vaccines are highly effective at preventing serious illness or death. The differences, if there actually are any, come at the less severe end of the scale and relate to whether you might get a mild illness or no symptoms at all. When viewed this way, any of these vaccines is better than none.
None the less, in Italy teachers were protesting against younger workers being given the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine while the Pfizer-Biontech and Moderna vaccines were reserved for the elderly.
I don't know whether Italy's decision on who gets what is related to logistics (storage temperature) or based on efficacy numbers, but all the vaccines are very good at doing what they are intended to do.
Johnson & Johnson's single-shot COVID-19 vaccine endorsed by U.S. advisers
That isn't all that interesting in itself, but there is something notable in the story about the vaccine itself. Unlike other vaccines, this one required only a single dose. However, the US are looking at whether making it a two dose vaccine would improve effectiveness.
As mentioned in a previous post there is a problem with reading too much into "efficacy" numbers because they don't mean quite as much as many people think they do.
Part of the problem is that different vaccines have been tested against different mixtures of viral variants. This is a result of them running trials at different times in different places where different mixtures of viruses were prevalent. This means that many of these comparisons are apples to oranges.
Another is that all of these vaccines are highly effective at preventing serious illness or death. The differences, if there actually are any, come at the less severe end of the scale and relate to whether you might get a mild illness or no symptoms at all. When viewed this way, any of these vaccines is better than none.
None the less, in Italy teachers were protesting against younger workers being given the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine while the Pfizer-Biontech and Moderna vaccines were reserved for the elderly.
I don't know whether Italy's decision on who gets what is related to logistics (storage temperature) or based on efficacy numbers, but all the vaccines are very good at doing what they are intended to do.
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Her Majesty says get stuck in with the vaccine you slackers.
Queen Elizabeth says 'think about other people,' get a COVID-19 shot
She made the very good point that getting vaccinated is as much about protecting other people as it is about protecting yourself. Preliminary studies suggest that someone who is vaccinated is less likely to pass on the virus to someone else.
Queen Elizabeth says 'think about other people,' get a COVID-19 shot
She made the very good point that getting vaccinated is as much about protecting other people as it is about protecting yourself. Preliminary studies suggest that someone who is vaccinated is less likely to pass on the virus to someone else.
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As mentioned in a previous post, Canada has approved the Oxford vaccine. This story some interesting details which I will summarise here.
Health Canada approves AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine
The first thing to note is that two suppliers have been approved, both AstraZeneca and the Serum Institute of India (SII), the latter being the world's largest vaccine maker who are supplying a large part of the world demand for the Oxford vaccine.
The first shipment of 500,000 doses from SII will arrive next Wednesday.
The more important discussion concerns "efficacy" numbers. There are several videos in the article in which Health Canada experts explain why the numbers for different vaccines can't really be compared to one another. In a previous post I mentioned that they were tested in different places at different times against different mixtures of virus variants.
Dr. Supriya Sharma also explained that the trials were constructed in different ways, with different criteria, run for different lengths of time, and had different end points. There were no head-to-head comparisons done which measured all the vaccines in the same way against the same standard. All of this together means that there is no way to reliably compare the vaccines to one another in terms of a simple "efficacy" number. All the efficacy number can tell you is that if it is reasonably high enough, then we know the vaccine is effective. Dr. Supriya Sharma pointed out that in the trial data, none of the people vaccinated with any of the vaccines being considered including the Oxford vaccine died of COVID-19, or were hospitalised with the disease.
Dr. Supriya Sharma also addressed the question of efficacy of the Oxford vaccine among older people. She said there was nothing in the trials which suggested that it wouldn't be effective in older people, the issue was simply the limited number of older people in the trial limited the amount of data available in that age group. However, she said that real world experience with the Oxford vaccine, including the study done in Scotland, provided pretty convincing evidence that the Oxford vaccine was just as effective among older people as it was with younger age groups.
Another health expert noted that the Oxford vaccine was a fairly conventional type and that anyone with experience with vaccines would expect it to be effective in older age groups based on the way that it works.
Health Canada are recommending that the Oxford vaccine be given in two doses 4 to 12 weeks apart, and Dr. Sharma said that current evidence that waiting the full 12 weeks before giving the second dose will increase its effectiveness.
Health Canada approves AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine
The first thing to note is that two suppliers have been approved, both AstraZeneca and the Serum Institute of India (SII), the latter being the world's largest vaccine maker who are supplying a large part of the world demand for the Oxford vaccine.
The first shipment of 500,000 doses from SII will arrive next Wednesday.
The more important discussion concerns "efficacy" numbers. There are several videos in the article in which Health Canada experts explain why the numbers for different vaccines can't really be compared to one another. In a previous post I mentioned that they were tested in different places at different times against different mixtures of virus variants.
Dr. Supriya Sharma also explained that the trials were constructed in different ways, with different criteria, run for different lengths of time, and had different end points. There were no head-to-head comparisons done which measured all the vaccines in the same way against the same standard. All of this together means that there is no way to reliably compare the vaccines to one another in terms of a simple "efficacy" number. All the efficacy number can tell you is that if it is reasonably high enough, then we know the vaccine is effective. Dr. Supriya Sharma pointed out that in the trial data, none of the people vaccinated with any of the vaccines being considered including the Oxford vaccine died of COVID-19, or were hospitalised with the disease.
Dr. Supriya Sharma also addressed the question of efficacy of the Oxford vaccine among older people. She said there was nothing in the trials which suggested that it wouldn't be effective in older people, the issue was simply the limited number of older people in the trial limited the amount of data available in that age group. However, she said that real world experience with the Oxford vaccine, including the study done in Scotland, provided pretty convincing evidence that the Oxford vaccine was just as effective among older people as it was with younger age groups.
Another health expert noted that the Oxford vaccine was a fairly conventional type and that anyone with experience with vaccines would expect it to be effective in older age groups based on the way that it works.
Health Canada are recommending that the Oxford vaccine be given in two doses 4 to 12 weeks apart, and Dr. Sharma said that current evidence that waiting the full 12 weeks before giving the second dose will increase its effectiveness.
TamH70
MIA
Just got my blue envelope from NHS Scotland this morning - my appointment for the jag is next week, the 3rd of March.
Pity, it's in sodding Glasgow at that pop-up hospital they've built at the SECC when they've got a vaccination centre up and running at Paisley's Lagoon Centre, but joined-up thinking has never been part of NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde's SOPs.
Still, day out in the big city and all that...
Pity, it's in sodding Glasgow at that pop-up hospital they've built at the SECC when they've got a vaccination centre up and running at Paisley's Lagoon Centre, but joined-up thinking has never been part of NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde's SOPs.
Still, day out in the big city and all that...
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They seem to expect that everyone can drive and has a car.
I was very pleased to find that a vaccination centre opened on my estate. A two minute drive or a 10 minute walk. Plenty of free parking. Very handy.
I'm not getting vaccinated there.
There's another vaccination centre about 2 miles away. A 10 minute drive or a 40 minute walk. Plenty of free parking. Handy if I drive.
I'm not getting vaccinated there.
Instead, I'm getting vaccinated in the centre of Luton. Being Sunday, that would be a 35 minute bus journey (if the bus turns up) and a 10 minute walk at each end. Fortunately I drive so it's only a half hour journey and there's a car park there which i hope isn't full (otherwise add 10 minutes detour and 10 minutes walk - which I'll have to allow for when I set off and so will everybody else which could lead to the car park being full). It's not free.
Still, I'm in a better situation than many others so can't complain.
I'm not getting vaccinated there.
There's another vaccination centre about 2 miles away. A 10 minute drive or a 40 minute walk. Plenty of free parking. Handy if I drive.
I'm not getting vaccinated there.
Instead, I'm getting vaccinated in the centre of Luton. Being Sunday, that would be a 35 minute bus journey (if the bus turns up) and a 10 minute walk at each end. Fortunately I drive so it's only a half hour journey and there's a car park there which i hope isn't full (otherwise add 10 minutes detour and 10 minutes walk - which I'll have to allow for when I set off and so will everybody else which could lead to the car park being full). It's not free.
Still, I'm in a better situation than many others so can't complain.
An addendum to the above:
My wife's colleague lives 200 yards from us and has been invited to have a vaccination.
In Stevenage.
As she doesn't drive, that's a 30 mile train journey to London and another 30 miles or so to Stevenage. Bus journeys at both ends. Peak fares as she'll catch either the morning peak or evening peak, depending on the time of the appointment.
Obviously, she's going to tell them to stop being stupid.
My wife's colleague lives 200 yards from us and has been invited to have a vaccination.
In Stevenage.
As she doesn't drive, that's a 30 mile train journey to London and another 30 miles or so to Stevenage. Bus journeys at both ends. Peak fares as she'll catch either the morning peak or evening peak, depending on the time of the appointment.
Obviously, she's going to tell them to stop being stupid.
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Here's the COVID-19 summary for Saturday.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Saturday
In Italy, Lombardy are going into a partical lockdown on Monday.
Auckland New Zealand are going into a 7 day lockdown after an unexplained case was found.
It seems to have been a quiet news day, which is always welcome.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Saturday
In Italy, Lombardy are going into a partical lockdown on Monday.
Auckland New Zealand are going into a 7 day lockdown after an unexplained case was found.
It seems to have been a quiet news day, which is always welcome.
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Yes, the bitterness seeps through.
This might be a local organization issue. For me (not that far north from you) We were given a list of all the local hospitals giving the injection, along with links to each sites automated booking systems. Then we could shop around amongst 4 hospitals to find the combo of time slot/distance/availiblity etc to pick.
TamH70
MIA
I would prefer that thing as well, but as I said I have to get inside Louisa Jordan on Wednesday.
... That didn't come out right, did it? Oh well.
Well mine was done as part of the second tier front line staff program, and the local NHS trust organized it. I suspect yours is getting done through your GP's.
Sympathies: seems some local Health authorities would struggle to organise a dose of clap at ' 4 Floors of Whores'
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