MERS Coronavirus warning

[Archibald]

Yeah it's true, traced back to Belgium. It's down to the UK having something like 60% of the world's genome sequencing capacity. UK shared the data to help, ironically EU shut borders with the UK as a result despite it was the UK essentially going "You lot need to be worried, this strain is already over there but you haven't the ability to know, so we're letting you know"

Politics is a funny old game

First identified in Kent you say, is that the English county with a very busy exit and entry points from the mainland of northern Europe including France / Belgium and Holland ?

Strange coincidence that then

Archie

 

[Raven2008]

And meanwhile in Netherlands anti lockdown crowd burn down test center and burn effigy of their PM.

Youths torch Covid testing centre amid fiery anti-lockdown protests

The testing facility in the village of Urk in the Netherlands went up in flames on Saturday night. An effigy of Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen was set on fire in Copenhagen on Sunday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Cheers

 

[Ayatollah]

This is not a Racial post it is a factual report published by the media.
More Blacks catch Corona 19 than any other race, they are also very skeptical about the vaccine and often reject it.

What's not being said about why African Americans need to ...​

theconversation.com › whats-not-being-said-about-why...

Dec 23, 2020 — Black people are skeptical about the new vaccines for many reasons. If public health leaders told the full story, maybe there'd be a higher ...

 

[TamH70]

This is not a Racial post it is a factual report published by the media.
More Blacks catch Corona 19 than any other race, they are also very skeptical about the vaccine and often reject it.

What's not being said about why African Americans need to ...​

theconversation.com › whats-not-being-said-about-why...

Dec 23, 2020 — Black people are skeptical about the new vaccines for many reasons. If public health leaders told the full story, maybe there'd be a higher ...

Makes sense.

The references to the Tuskeegee Syphillis Trials and Henrietta Lacks are probably more potent in the States than they are here, and in both cases were unconscionably terrible and unjustifiable for the families of those involved as well as the uninformed participants. It's hardly surprising that given those cases, a lot of African-Americans just don't trust whitey.

I just wonder how you would manage to get more levels of trust developed in the system.

 

[ancienturion]

This is not a Racial post it is a factual report published by the media.
More Blacks catch Corona 19 than any other race, they are also very skeptical about the vaccine and often reject it.

What's not being said about why African Americans need to ...​

theconversation.com › whats-not-being-said-about-why...

Dec 23, 2020 — Black people are skeptical about the new vaccines for many reasons. If public health leaders told the full story, maybe there'd be a higher ...

I assume that in UK we are very lucky not having any african americans.

 

[terminal]

Here's the COVID-19 summary for Sunday.
Coronavirus: What's happening in Canada and around the world on Sunday

Four cabinet ministers in Zimbabwe have died of COVID-19, three of those within the past two weeks.

In Africa, four Zimbabwean cabinet ministers have died of COVID-19 — three within the past two weeks — highlighting a resurgence of the disease in the country.

France are considering having another lockdown soon.

In Europe, the French government says it may impose a third lockdown in the coming days if an existing 12-hour-a-day curfew doesn't significantly slow virus infections.

President Obrador of Mexico has tested positive for COVID-19. Symptoms are mild so far.

In the Americas, Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said Sunday he has tested positive for COVID-19 and that the symptoms are mild.

Here's another story with more details on Obrador.
Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador tests positive for COVID-19
Obrador has been heavily criticised for not taking the pandemic seriously, and Mexico has had a very high infection and death rate.

Mexico will begin negotiations with Russia on Monday for the Sputnik V vaccine, and Obrador will be speaking with Putin on the matter, as well as about their bilateral relationship. Mexico are looking for new vaccine sources due to the recent cut back in deliveries by Pfizer.

His announcement came shortly after news emerged that he would speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday about obtaining doses of the Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine.

Foreign Affairs Secretary Marcelo Ebrard said on Twitter the two leaders would speak about the bilateral relationship and supplying doses of the vaccine.

 

[terminal]

Makes sense.

The references to the Tuskeegee Syphillis Trials and Henrietta Lacks are probably more potent in the States than they are here, and in both cases were unconscionably terrible and unjustifiable for the families of those involved as well as the uninformed participants. It's hardly surprising that given those cases, a lot of African-Americans just don't trust whitey.

I just wonder how you would manage to get more levels of trust developed in the system.

Vaccine rejection in the US is closely related to education levels, and black people in the US generally have poorer educations. They are also less likely to have regular contact with a family physician due to having on average less income to pay for it and less likely to be in the sort of job which has employer health benefits.

 

[terminal]

Here's the CBC story on the riots in the Netherlands.
Anti-lockdown rioters clash with police, set fires in the Netherlands

In short, there were riots in various parts of the Netherlands, including Amsterdam and Eindhoven. These are full on riots with firebombs, arson, tear gas and water cannon. It's not clear how many people have been arrested in total, but the story mentions 100 in Amsterdam.

The riots are ostensibly about the curfew and lockdown, but the story mentions that PEGIDA and possibly other groups are involved.

 

[BaldBaBoon]

 

[Northern_Biff]

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Amsterdam?

Why do furriners always make their signs in English, don't they have their own mangled language to express themselves?

 

[BaldBaBoon]

Just like to bring to attention the " Stop De Lockdown " picture from the overseas protests.

All those years of people taking the mickey out of Brits using their language skills of putting silly accents on and talking louder when speaking to foreigners appear to be wrong. As I have been using for years, just add a Zee occasiionally when speaking to Germans and a De when speaking to Dutch etc.

 

[exbleep]

Pfizer have now provided the number of vaccines contracted for the Valencia Region today. The region had to cancel the planned first dose for non frontline health personnel and over 80s this last week and use the vaccines remaining to give the second doses to the first priority group.
Valencia Region will now go back on plan and start vaccinating the second priority group but it's not been clarified if they will now receive the shortfall of vaccines from last week.
Andalusia also ran out of vaccines because of the lack of supply by Pfizer and used all the Moderna ones for the over 80s group but there wasn't enough of them provided to complete the programme.

 

[Falling Plate]

I had the Pfizer jab Thursday. Slightly painful arm for 24 hours.

My Mrs had the Oxford/AZ jab last night. Aches and chills all night.

I will ring a few people who had it last night to see if they have had similar symptoms.

 

[Chalkythedog]

Here's a thought for the lockdown loonies. What happens when money finally gives up the unequal struggle and becomes totally worthless? There won't be any £1000 Universal Credit payments. What there will be is, erm, universal credit. Paid into the whole population's bank accounts - but only if you deserve it. The credit will be good for whatever the State thinks you deserve. Food, housing, transport, heating, medical. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Those without ability will have a pretty thin time of it. Complete control. Not registered? No credit. Not compliant? No credit.
The first tranche of 10m people are already enlisted. It's an interesting speculation.

 

[3ToedSloth]

Here's a thought for the lockdown loonies. What happens when money finally gives up the unequal struggle and becomes totally worthless? There won't be any £1000 Universal Credit payments. What there will be is, erm, universal credit. Paid into the whole population's bank accounts - but only if you deserve it. The credit will be good for whatever the State thinks you deserve. Food, housing, transport, heating, medical. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Those without ability will have a pretty thin time of it. Complete control. Not registered? No credit. Not compliant? No credit.
The first tranche of 10m people are already enlisted. It's an interesting speculation.

"Nurse, he's out of bed again..."

 

[crow_bag]

Here's a thought for the lockdown loonies. What happens when money finally gives up the unequal struggle and becomes totally worthless? There won't be any £1000 Universal Credit payments. What there will be is, erm, universal credit. Paid into the whole population's bank accounts - but only if you deserve it. The credit will be good for whatever the State thinks you deserve. Food, housing, transport, heating, medical. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Those without ability will have a pretty thin time of it. Complete control. Not registered? No credit. Not compliant? No credit.
The first tranche of 10m people are already enlisted. It's an interesting speculation.

You are absolutely barking mad.

I’m still waiting for you to explain how destroying the economy will save the Tory party.

 

[pc supa]

Here's a thought for the lockdown loonies. What happens when money finally gives up the unequal struggle and becomes totally worthless? There won't be any £1000 Universal Credit payments. What there will be is, erm, universal credit. Paid into the whole population's bank accounts - but only if you deserve it. The credit will be good for whatever the State thinks you deserve. Food, housing, transport, heating, medical. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Those without ability will have a pretty thin time of it. Complete control. Not registered? No credit. Not compliant? No credit.
The first tranche of 10m people are already enlisted. It's an interesting speculation.

No it isn't, it's just pure moon howling unfounded speculation on your behalf.

 

[Chalkythedog]

No it isn't, it's just pure moon howling unfounded speculation on your behalf.

OK, well how do you feel about only the children of 'essential' workers receiving an education? Dont want to disappoint you, but it's happening now. Or about the 10m people whose jobs have been deemed unnecessary by the Government and are currently receiving credits to their bank accounts? Been on holiday abroad recently? No thought not.

 

[pc supa]

OK, well how do you feel about only the children of 'essential' workers receiving an education? Dont want to disappoint you, but it's happening now. Or about the 10m people whose jobs have been deemed unnecessary by the Government and are currently receiving credits to their bank accounts? Been on holiday abroad recently? No thought not.

So what do you want ?
Everybody out and about and coronavirus totally out of control, with a mortality rate that would make the current one microscopic, anyone who wants to go on holiday at present needs their heads examined.

 

[crow_bag]

OK, well how do you feel about only the children of 'essential' workers receiving an education? Dont want to disappoint you, but it's happening now. Or about the 10m people whose jobs have been deemed unnecessary by the Government and are currently receiving credits to their bank accounts? Been on holiday abroad recently? No thought not.

You’ve made all of that up, you big fibber.

All children regardless of the job their parents do can still go to nursery.

All children at school have access to online learning materials.

The government don’t decide whose jobs are necessary or not, and I dispute your figure of 10 million people being furloughed, as that would be about 1/7 of the entire population of the country.