Mercedes

I had a w202 c180 sport and loved it to bits. Great on the motorway, a big boot for stuff and it moved. Hated getting rid of it but I had it seven years and it was getting too old for me to keep putting the money into it.
 
Now I find all this very interesting, I will be in the market for a large dogmobile probably next year. As it will be filled with mud and hair I am not about to spend much on it.
I have read all the glowing reports about your cars, but I contrast them with friends and local mechanics advice, also Honest John.
Friend had a brand new C180 that rusted and fell to bits in 3 years, second worst car he has had after a Chinese MG TF.
Neighbour has a a B180, I think the term "meh" was invented for it. Another neighbour has an E class and is on first name terms with most of the AA patrol force.
Local garage warns me off with scare stories and shows me the bills and Honest John does the rest.
So why are people's experiences so varied?
Am I doomed to a Mondeo....
Rust you say? It depends on where you live. In southern China there is no rust problem, but in the north that has severe winters yes there is and likewise for other countries. The UK has severe winters and still uses salt on the roads so rust is a problem for all makes and models.

In Cuba they are still driving ancient models, and I do mean ancient and not simply classic because of the weather conditions, the cars simply do not rot.
 
I had a C class estate, sold it at ten years old, used it loads for dogs and same with E class now, carrying sacks of coal and logs, not had a problem with either.
The secondhand diesels will last forever if looked after, see all the EU taxis.
Partners company switched from Ford to Vauxhall and then stuck with Toyota for their company cars, great, reliable but for speed I prefer the Mercedes, if you aren't bothered about speed, buy a Toyota.
All the Taxis in Germany used to be Mercedes and I am pretty sure they were all diesel, not sure what it is today mind. Hong Kong are still using Toyota crown as taxi's. China are using cheap shit cars as taxies and using natural gas.
 

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All the Taxis in Germany used to be Mercedes and I am pretty sure they were all diesel, not sure what it is today mind. Hong Kong are still using Toyota crown as taxi's. China are using cheap shit cars as taxies and using natural gas.
Saw a load of Teslas in Amsterdam recently, maybe some incentive?
 
Saw a load of Teslas in Amsterdam recently, maybe some incentive?
Jarrod, there are lots of em here too, but they are the expensive models, Chinese and their face eh? Most certainly the electric cars are of the immediate future.

Is the Blue Bell bar still there in the red light district? Hehe
 
Forgive me Lord, for I have sinned, these last 13 years. I have been away from our Church of the Three Pointed Star for this last while. It is however a very forgiving church, and welcomes home prodigal sons with open arms. It's also a bit like the Army, you can take the man out of the Army, but not the Army out of the man. I have repented my sins. Hallelujah!

Our Q7's lease was up very soon, so we went car shopping yesterday. Our property is down a gravel track, which is a bit of a lottery in heavy rain or snow, so we really wanted AWD or 4x4. Looked at the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Chevy Traverse, which were in strong contention. On one of the lots was a used Mercedes ML which we really liked, so off to the Mercedes dealer. Where they were doing deals. The ML was facelifted into the GLE about 18 months ago, and it just so happened they had a demo model GLE350 4MATIC.

Which is now sitting on the driveway. In the words of the dealership General Manager "Welcome back to the family".

 
Forgive me Lord, for I have sinned, these last 13 years. I have been away from our Church of the Three Pointed Star for this last while.
Mercedes GLE... guess yours will be nailed together by fat yanks in Alabama?
I suppose if I was off my tits on smack I might want one...... hang that was Janis Joplin!
 
Forgive me Lord, for I have sinned, these last 13 years. I have been away from our Church of the Three Pointed Star for this last while. It is however a very forgiving church, and welcomes home prodigal sons with open arms. It's also a bit like the Army, you can take the man out of the Army, but not the Army out of the man. I have repented my sins. Hallelujah!

Our Q7's lease was up very soon, so we went car shopping yesterday. Our property is down a gravel track, which is a bit of a lottery in heavy rain or snow, so we really wanted AWD or 4x4. Looked at the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Chevy Traverse, which were in strong contention. On one of the lots was a used Mercedes ML which we really liked, so off to the Mercedes dealer. Where they were doing deals. The ML was facelifted into the GLE about 18 months ago, and it just so happened they had a demo model GLE350 4MATIC.

Which is now sitting on the driveway. In the words of the dealership General Manager "Welcome back to the family".

Except Janis Joplin was a walt; she had a Porche 356B.
 
Forgive me Lord, for I have sinned, these last 13 years. I have been away from our Church of the Three Pointed Star for this last while. It is however a very forgiving church, and welcomes home prodigal sons with open arms. It's also a bit like the Army, you can take the man out of the Army, but not the Army out of the man. I have repented my sins. Hallelujah!

Our Q7's lease was up very soon, so we went car shopping yesterday. Our property is down a gravel track, which is a bit of a lottery in heavy rain or snow, so we really wanted AWD or 4x4. Looked at the Jeep Grand Cherokee and the Chevy Traverse, which were in strong contention. On one of the lots was a used Mercedes ML which we really liked, so off to the Mercedes dealer. Where they were doing deals. The ML was facelifted into the GLE about 18 months ago, and it just so happened they had a demo model GLE350 4MATIC.

Which is now sitting on the driveway. In the words of the dealership General Manager "Welcome back to the family".
If it must be a German car, this one is going on auction. One careful owner. It even has a handgrip at the top of the windshield so that one can steady oneself while moving down the street in the midst of one's adoring fans.

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I haven't read this whole thread because I'm not a saddo... I have driven Mercs a plenty and much prefer the Sprinter van. My neighbour has a second-hand C220 Estate 2004 or something very close to that and often calls on me for a helping hand with it. He's no mechanic but eventually found the screen washer bottle...
I helped him to deal with a flat tyre - huh! nuisance. The spare wheel was Steel but the original is alloy - so the bolts don't fit as they are far too long. There is a sticker on the steel wheel and there should be a pack of short bolts to use when you fit it as a spare. As if that pack of bolts isn't going to go missing - design fail!
The windows "master switch" is a known weak point but to change it the whole door panel has to come off - which is a secret process reserved for fellow crafts and masters....

But anyway getting to the point (at last). I was looking on line for an electric tyre inflator when I found an Official Mercedes version with the Merc logo. It was a very close match to the Official BMW tyre inflator except the BMW one has the BMW logo and is a very close match for the Volkswagon tyre inflator, except for it's logo. You get my drift. It's like I tell the boys (now grown). "If you see something like a torch with a Tesco label on it, you can bet it wasn't made by Tesco. Tesco doesn't actually make anything." It's much the same with cars. Mercedes Don't actually make Lightbulbs, Sparkplugs and a great deal else either. Another company does, like Lucas or Bosch, or even some cheapskate Fred Bloggs outfit somewhere.

So how much of a given Merc is actually uniquely made by Mercedes, solely for a Mercedes?
 
I haven't read this whole thread because I'm not a saddo... I have driven Mercs a plenty and much prefer the Sprinter van. My neighbour has a second-hand C220 Estate 2004 or something very close to that and often calls on me for a helping hand with it. He's no mechanic but eventually found the screen washer bottle...
I helped him to deal with a flat tyre - huh! nuisance. The spare wheel was Steel but the original is alloy - so the bolts don't fit as they are far too long. There is a sticker on the steel wheel and there should be a pack of short bolts to use when you fit it as a spare. As if that pack of bolts isn't going to go missing - design fail!
The windows "master switch" is a known weak point but to change it the whole door panel has to come off - which is a secret process reserved for fellow crafts and masters....

But anyway getting to the point (at last). I was looking on line for an electric tyre inflator when I found an Official Mercedes version with the Merc logo. It was a very close match to the Official BMW tyre inflator except the BMW one has the BMW logo and is a very close match for the Volkswagon tyre inflator, except for it's logo. You get my drift. It's like I tell the boys (now grown). "If you see something like a torch with a Tesco label on it, you can bet it wasn't made by Tesco. Tesco doesn't actually make anything." It's much the same with cars. Mercedes Don't actually make Lightbulbs, Sparkplugs and a great deal else either. Another company does, like Lucas or Bosch, or even some cheapskate Fred Bloggs outfit somewhere.

So how much of a given Merc is actually uniquely made by Mercedes, solely for a Mercedes?
Very little is actually made by Mercedes nowadays, ie you can buy Bosch plugs for less money but Bosch supplies the same plug with the Merc logo and yes Merc then pass on the extra cost. Many if not most of the parts for Merc are made by Bosch or used to be, I am not up to date on suppliers now.
 
So how much of a given Merc is actually uniquely made by Mercedes, solely for a Mercedes?
Interesting question, so I looked it up for ours. According to MBUSI's website, about 25% of the car is manufactured in Tuscaloosa. This would be predominantly the bodyshell and panels. Stamping, welding, painting and final assembly are all done in house. 65% comes from other North American suppliers, and the engine and gearbox come from Daimler in Germany.

I would imagine the interior, glass, wheels, brake and suspension parts, lights, and electronics are all made by component suppliers who specialise in the particular component. Obviously the glass, lights, exterior trim and complete interior are unique to a specific model, but things like seat belt webbing and light bulbs should be generic parts.

Only had this one a day, but the three Mercs I've had before pretty much all had the Mercedes-Benz emblem on even minor parts like rubber trim. Somewhere I've got a box of instrument panel bulbs for the W123, and IIRC the part number includes W123 at the start, so they were specific to that model. But that was 40 years ago. I don't expect they're uniquely coded today.
 

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