MENSA

TO Join or not to Join

  • Why not when you've got it flaunt it

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  • Don't do it, will make you look like an uber geek

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#1
Having had a full educational psychologist's report done for other reasons it turns out I'm eligible to join Mensa, I was just wondering if anyone else out there was or is a member. Is it worth it or does it just make you look like an uber geek? It says it makes a great edition to your CV, however I'm not sure if it will not put people off as a first impression as they will write me off as an insufferable know it all and it will end up shutting more doors than it opens.

Cheers in advance,

WW
 
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#2
I paid to take the invigilated exam. Passed with flying colours (not that you can fail) and was told I was in the top 2% and able to join if I wanted. However, I wasn't prepared to pay the annual joining fee. It was nearly £50 a year if I recall?
 
#5
Yes it is impossible to 'fail' an IQ test as test is the wrong word for it, my assessment was the Weiser IQ test. It is about £50 a year but I'm willing to pay out for that if its worth it, e.g interesting sub groups, access to meetings, networking and the chance to connect with people who also only get the pish taken out of them most of the time for being a geek, then suddenly become popular when the local is running a quiz with the prize of a slab of beer!!
 
#6
Sounds like you have made up your mind to give it a go, WW. And, if you're motivated to do so, you should. It wouldn't be "my cup of tea", but I'm thinking that, for the sake of a year's subscription, you might regret not giving it a try.

Have fun. :D

(I've no idea about the CV ...... see how you find membership first.)
 
#8
I took a MENSA test once and was apparently 'one point short of a genius'. I should have been pleased but I've always felt that it sounded too much like "one sandwich short of a picnic, or, one tinny short of a six pack" etc and so have avoided membership as a result :? :lol:
 
#9
I've been a member for 20 years now. I met my previous partner through it and also my current wife.

I live in London which does have a more active social scene that most other areas - monthly pub crawls; eating meetings; other drink related activities and more highbrow stuff as well. (Guess which ones I might go to!)

It is what you make of it - we do a selected few meetings which appeal - many do not.

The general consensus is that MENSA membership is not a good thing to put on your CV - membership of an international social group is about as much as I would show.

If your social circle needs expanding it is worth giving it a go IMHO (it worked for me) - do not expect it to be an instant cure - you need to work at it and try a few different things.

There also many Special Interest Groups (SIGs) of which you can subscribe to two free. These range from Sci-Fi to Chess to Quizzes to Religion to Trans-Gender and all stations between!
 
#10
I thought about it but decided i was far too smart to give the geeks the honour of associating with me. :D

A far better measure of intellect, and more acceptable on the CV is a half dozen Masters degree's.
 
#11
T.F.R said:
A far better measure of intellect, and more acceptable on the CV is a half dozen Masters degree's.
You reckon? If I read a CV with that many postnominals I'd think 'serial degree-taker' and plan some interesting interview questions... :D
 
#13
E-Layer said:
By all means do the test - you are not obliged to join, they just send you a letter saying that you are in the top 2% IQ-wise and are eligible to join. The rest is up to you.

I joined in '91.

They used to send out the 'Mensa Magazine' every month - some relatively interesting articles but a letters page full of no-hopers bigging themselves up, blowing sunshine up each others, and their own, arses and contributing little of significance to anything really.

Did the obligatory 'Monthly meeting' once - saw the crowd sat in the corner of the pub as I approached - turned and left the builing - absolute chuffpieces (one of them was wearing sports shorts, grey shirt, calf-length socks and brogues :| .....)

I pulled out of it after a couple of years because the annual fee was not worth a monthly magazine and membership card.....so now I'm thick again.

On a lighter note - when I first did the aptitude test in the back of the 'sun' I sent if off and then sat there re-reading the question, all chuffed with myself and thinking about how clever I was to have soved it.....

.....then it dawned on me that if I was reading the question, what had I just sent off to MENSA......thick twat!

I wonder what the clerk got when she received the empty envelope.

Suffice to say, did the test again, did the supervised test and got in - but like I said, it's a self-gratification thing if nothing else - absolutely no use in industry and it just doesn't sit right on a CV anyway.
Pretty similar to my own experiences... I got pi$$ed off with all the strange SIGs, including cross-dressing or similar... :roll:

And just what is all that brain power doing for the greater good of Humanity? :roll:
 
#15
I work with a lot of clever people, some are ok, some are terribly dull, but we all enjoy radio 4 and have a bunch of degrees, and can pass the time amicably at coffee break. Very few of them join mensa (or would admit to it), and I think they would wonder what on earth they would do it for. It does have an unfortunate association from the ivory tower of attracting those with a bit of a chip on their shoulder about their educational background, but personally I think it's a misplaced impression, as intellect often has little to do with education. However, I'm not sure that a common intellect is any more arbitrary than colour of eyes or inside leg measurement for generating stimulating discussion or meeting people you're more likely to get on with.

Being amongst clever people is all very well, but there are bigger cnuts among them than the other 98% put together. I would echo what someone very wise once said - they used to admire people who were clever, but over the years replaced that with people who were kind. I know whom I'd rather be amongst.
 
#16
E-Layer said:
By all means do the test - you are not obliged to join, they just send you a letter saying that you are in the top 2% IQ-wise and are eligible to join. The rest is up to you.

I joined in '91.

They used to send out the 'Mensa Magazine' every month - some relatively interesting articles but a letters page full of no-hopers bigging themselves up, blowing sunshine up each others, and their own, arses and contributing little of significance to anything really.

Did the obligatory 'Monthly meeting' once - saw the crowd sat in the corner of the pub as I approached - turned and left the builing - absolute chuffpieces (one of them was wearing sports shorts, grey shirt, calf-length socks and brogues :| .....)

I pulled out of it after a couple of years because the annual fee was not worth a monthly magazine and membership card.....so now I'm thick again.

On a lighter note - when I first did the aptitude test in the back of the 'sun' I sent if off and then sat there re-reading the question, all chuffed with myself and thinking about how clever I was to have soved it.....

.....then it dawned on me that if I was reading the question, what had I just sent off to MENSA......thick twat!

I wonder what the clerk got when she received the empty envelope.

Suffice to say, did the test again, did the supervised test and got in - but like I said, it's a self-gratification thing if nothing else - absolutely no use in industry and it just doesn't sit right on a CV anyway.
I joined in abut 91 as well (for the best of all reasons - a bet for a lot of beer if I got in :D ). Similar experience to you: Monthly Meeting full of self-important to**ers sat around comparing IQ scores in loud voices in a vague hope that it would make up for their complete lack of a personality. Didn't go back a second time. Quit after a couple of years as I couldn't justify the fee simply for the magazine and to be able to put "MENSA member" on my CV.

As a matter of fact, I got more interviews after I removed it from my CV. Was it putting prospective employers off as they thought I could be a potential threat to their own jobs, or, as I think more likely, that it marked me out as potentially being a too-far-up-my-own-arrse, geeky tw**?
 
#17
milsum said:
I work with a lot of clever people, some are ok, some are terribly dull, but we all enjoy radio 4 and have a bunch of degrees, and can pass the time amicably at coffee break. Very few of them join mensa (or would admit to it), and I think they would wonder what on earth they would do it for. It does have an unfortunate association from the ivory tower of attracting those with a bit of a chip on their shoulder about their educational background, but personally I think it's a misplaced impression, as intellect often has little to do with education. However, I'm not sure that a common intellect is any more arbitrary than colour of eyes or inside leg measurement for generating stimulating discussion or meeting people you're more likely to get on with.

Being amongst clever people is all very well, but there are bigger cnuts among them than the other 98% put together. I would echo what someone very wise once said - they used to admire people who were clever, but over the years replaced that with people who were kind. I know whom I'd rather be amongst.
You'e got it exactly Milsum. Couldn't agree with you more.

Edited to add: These days I work in a graduate-only profession. We're all the same, and things like IQ ratings or letters after your name mean nothing. What matters to us (as it should be) is "can they do the job?"
 
#18
I wouldn't put in on a CV. If you want to join in order to expand your social circle, find similar friends etc, then there's probably nothing wrong with it. But I'm not sure how an employer would react to seeing it written on a CV - it would probably smack of insecurity if it wasn't backed up by the qualifications, and arrogance if it were - or maybe even too narrow minded i.e. too focused on the academic side of things.

Although I'm not sure IQ really means anything, anyway. I have a friend who scored around 90 on an IQ test when they were tested for Dyslexia, but is now doing a very technicial PhD involving vision.

So my view is it's probably fine if you join for fun, but I wouldn't advise placing it on your CV.

edit: although I should also add, just reading Milsums post, my friend is probably the kindest person I know :)
 
#19
Victorian_Major said:
T.F.R said:
A far better measure of intellect, and more acceptable on the CV is a half dozen Masters degree's.
You reckon? If I read a CV with that many postnominals I'd think 'serial degree-taker' and plan some interesting interview questions... :D
oh dear ive been outed as a degree walt :D :D :D
 
#20
The problem with MENSA is that the whole organisation is predicated on the idea that an indicative test is the thing itself. I scaped through, but then I thought, whatever "intelligence" is it has to be about functioning of some sort. It has to be about managing the world with insight and guile. So the bloke who produced the rotary engine was a clever barsteward, as was the geezer who thought, "Bombs are mainly chemical oxygen - suppose we could use the air, megabang" regardless of their IQ scores. Similarly an IQ of 170 means fanny adams if you never do anything intelligent in the world. Bill Gates scores (apparently) 160 - there are people at every MENSA meeting apparently more "intelligent" than him. Yeah, right.

You can't turn up at the start of the Tour de France with your VO2 max score and expect to be given the yellow jersey - you have to ride the course, yet VO2 max is a much better measure of endurance ability than IQ is a measure of intelligence.

So, basically, MENSA is an organisation of people who for decades have proven themselves too thick to understand what an indicative test is :lol: