Memorise the Quran for twenty extra marks

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  1. [h=1]Educational bias: Memorise the Quran for twenty extra marksEducational bias: Memorise the Quran for twenty extra marks – The Express Tribune
    LAHORE: Haroon Arif, a student from DG Khan in Punjab, could not get high enough marks to get into medical school. This is a standard situation for many young people in the country. What’s different here is that Haroon, who missed the grade by less than 0.1%, would have earned 20 extra marks if he was Hafiz-e-Quran. He tried to claim his knowledge of the Bible was equivalent, but this made no impact.

    “I deserved it and yet just because I am Christian, I have been put at a disadvantage,” Haroon says.
    He found out about the discrimination on viewing the results at his test centre last month. “There was a separate column for Hafiz-e-Quran, and I found out that those who had memorised the holy book got 20 extra marks,” he adds.
    Haroon got A grades in both matriculation and intermediate exams, but was an agonising 0.0255% behind the line for medical school in his final aggregate. This miniscule figure changed the course of his life.
    “I know of students who did not perform well in the test and had lower marks in their matriculation and intermediate exams, but they got in, just because of these twenty marks,” he complains.
    Haroon tried to show the university his three certificates in Bible education, but the authorities said they had no policy to accept these. Since Haroon’s parents are poor, his only hope was a government-run medical university, where fees are 10% of what private universities charge.
    His father is a health worker and his mother a nurse. “I have seen my parents in this profession but only as support staff. Is that all Christians are destined to do?” he asks.
    Haroon refused to give up. “My father could not afford a lawyer so I decided to approach a human rights organisation, who advised me to go to the courts for help.”
    In his petition, Haroon maintained that under Article 25 his rights have been violated, as no person should be denied the same protection which is enjoyed by other citizens of Pakistan. Along with his documents, he submitted two letters, one from the Church of Pakistan and the other from the Bishop of Islamabad, clearly stating that Haroon’s religious education is at par with any Islamic education.
    “Despite all relevant documents from competent authorities, the courts did not acknowledge this as a human rights issue,” says Peter Jacob, head of the organisation Haroon approached. “They are passing the matter on to the next authority, and we have been unable to get any positive response from anywhere,” Peter says, adding that there is a policy vacuum as the government never addresses educational bias.
    The University of Health Sciences, which conducts the medical tests, seems to think it is not its domain to make policy.
    “This is a sensitive religious issue, and we cannot change policy on our own. The same happens in engineering universities also, and it has been in place since the time of Zia-ul-Haq,” says Mohammad Atif, the head of public affairs at the university, adding that around 50 students were given 20 extra marks this year since they were Hafiz-e-Quran.
    “We realise this is against human rights and have debated a lot on this policy, since minorities are being marginalised – but we follow government orders,” he adds.
    While the university is at least debating the discriminatory nature of this policy, Punjab’s education minister showed little concern when contacted. “We cannot change the system because of a nominal amount of people,” said Mujtaba Shuja-ur-Rehman.
    Despite everything, Haroon remains hopeful. “I am as much a Pakistani as any Muslim, we are all equal citizens and the government will realise this,” he says.
  2. Great. Let's hire a few hundred more for the NHS. We'll have lots of dead patients but they'll all have the right prayer said over their still-twitching corpses.
  3. I care just enough to post

    " I don't really care very much"

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  4. Pakistanis being bigoted and prejudicial?

    Quelle surprise!
  5. Hot meat and potato, with brown sauce, marvellous!
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  6. I reckon the only reason you may be treated by a Pakistani doctor in the next few years will be as a Prisoner of War, ( once the Taliban have managed to stop celebrating their strategic defeat of NATO and merged Afghanistan and Pakistan into one Islamic super state).
  7. Most Upvoted comment on the article :-
    Uzair J
    Feb 8, 2012 - 11:48AM

    @ Author: You showed a very poor approach towards understanding why extra 20 marks are given to a person who has memorized the Quran. It would have been better had you supported the cause of minorities to have a special quota. Being a Muslim yourself (apparently), dont you know how mammoth a task it is to memorize the Holy Book?? This was to reward the tast one undertook in memorizing the Holy Book nothing else.

  8. OR the radicals take over Briton which is more likely!
    just saying!
  9. A few years ago Arrse favourite Anjem Choudary started describing himself as "The Chief Judge of the Sharia Courts of the United Kingdom". He very soon had a tap on the shoulder from a few Imams who sat as real Sharia "judges". They pointed out:-

    1 Photographic evidence of Anjem smoking splifs at University kinda disbarred him.

    2 More photographic evidence of his fondness for Woodpecker cider doubly disbarred him.

    3 Yet more photos of him leering at porn while pissed suggest his calling may lie with the Church of Scotland rather than the Religion of Peace.

    4 He'd already been struck off as a solicitor in the UK so any kind of judicial gig was out of the question.

    5 Above all, he'd never attended a Madrasas, hence he is not Hafiz-e-Quran and therefore no more qualified to issue fatwas than Bernard Manning - and Bernard's dead.

    Thank God the little sod was kicked into touch. He was recently seen trying to close pubs in London and passing a "death fatwa"on the Pope for, well, being Catholic. If it wasn't for Hafiz-e-Quran, folks might take Anjem seriously instead of treating him like the clown he is.
  10. 6,000 Doctors of Pakistani descent in the NHS, but please don't lets not let facts get in the way of a good old xenophobic rant hey?

    Personally don't give a toss about the kids and old people they have helped, as long as we can have a right laugh.

    The fact that the above article is from a Pakistani paper expressing outrage at how the Christian has been (very unfairly) treated also seems to have passed us by.

    Anyway, forgive my interuption of the local ARRSE EDL thead.

  11. I say. A bit presumptuous, what?
  12. Perhaps, but seems to me we are willing to hang, draw and quarter a ethnic minority on the basis of a single incident. Almost as if anything good a certain ethnic minority do is negated by the actions of a very few.
  13. Rather more succinct than your original, somewhat inflammatory post.

    But it wasn't a single incident was it?
  14. So basically this bloke's a failure then!?! Could have read and learned book and got some extra marks but instead went to church.

    Why didn't this bloke pray to his God for some help, inspiration and maybe some higher marks? Not much of a God if he can't make that simple wish come true.

    I certainly wouldn't want to be treated by a doctor who couldn't be arsed to put that extra bit of effort into his training.
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  15. Agreed, Stella on Monday night was a bad idea.

    Sure, was not a single incident, but you can find many examples of Judaism, Christianity and Hinduism showing religion causing such stupidity.

    However, we do pick out a certain one for the most bigoted and venamous treatment. What makes it worse is that a lot of these opinions fly in the face of facts. All one really needs is a brain, 5 minutes and Google, but alas....