Medical officer posting choices

rezMB ChB

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Hello,

so after talking to recruiters about my particular situation, they convinced me that I should apply as a medical officer rather than normal officer or enlisted. However, I would love to go on the jumps course/get posted with 16medical regiment. Does anyone know the chances of me getting to do PCoy as a medical officer or like my choices about where I can be posted and best chance of getting deployed to a field hospital etc? dont really know much about the reality of a career as a medical officer.

Thanks in advance guys
 

Fang_Farrier

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Speaking from my own experience many years ago. Recruiters know bugger all about AMS Officers.

They was always plenty competition for such warry posts in my time, so I don;t expect to have changed at all.

Just remember that the Army want you for your medical skills, not necessarily for your military skills.
 

Caecilius

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What is your situation? Choosing between joining as an OR and joining as a PQO doctor is a pretty rare decision. What phase of med school are you in?
 

rezMB ChB

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What is your medical qualification in?
Bachelor of medicine and bachelor of surgery

What is your situation? Choosing between joining as an OR and joining as a PQO doctor is a pretty rare decision. What phase of med school are you in?
So im a UK citizen since birth but studying medicine in new zealand (dual citizenship), I wanted to apply as a regular officer but they said I would have to do a bunch of waivers and shit and i should join as a PQO. I wouldnt mind being a doctor in the army but really wanna get to jump out of planes. So im just curious is anyone knows about choices and chances of getting my wings as a medical officer.
Im in my fourth year.

ty all
 
You will have no choice but to join as a PQO medical officer shit bust. However once through all of your training you can apply for a posting as an MO at any Para unit or get posted to 16 Med Reg which is the medical unit of 16 Air Assault Brigade. Once there you can then do P Coy and a Parachute course and Parachute to your hearts content. While obviously still being a doctor.
 

ugly

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You will have no choice but to join as a PQO medical officer shit bust. However once through all of your training you can apply for a posting as an MO at any Para unit or get posted to 16 Med Reg which is the medical unit of 16 Air Assault Brigade. Once there you can then do P Coy and a Parachute course and Parachute to your hearts content. While obviously still being a doctor.
Be able to apply your own Zinc tape on P Coy, wow!
 
Hello,

so after talking to recruiters about my particular situation, they convinced me that I should apply as a medical officer rather than normal officer or enlisted. However, I would love to go on the jumps course/get posted with 16medical regiment. Does anyone know the chances of me getting to do PCoy as a medical officer or like my choices about where I can be posted and best chance of getting deployed to a field hospital etc? dont really know much about the reality of a career as a medical officer.

Thanks in advance guys
You could also consider 3 Commando Brigade which is nice and 'warry', complete your All Arms Commando Course then you can complete your jumps for your wings (although that would then be dependant on the 'job' position I think may only be RM Poole that has a jumps billet for MO's) without needing to complete P Coy. 29 Cdo RA and 24 Cdo RE have Army MO's. You can do these courses before joining proper too, pre sandhurst, or at least you can in the Royal Navy.

Why not join as a Royal Navy MO and do your Commando course? More options then, Commando Logisitcs Regiment (role 2) Barnstaple North Devon, 30 Cdo IX Plymouth, 42 Cdo Plymouth, 40 Cdo Taunton, 45 Cdo Arbroath Scotland, 43 Cdo Falsane Scotland , Commando Helicopter Force Yeovilton. Do arctic and mountain warfare training, Amphibious stuff, RM Poole if your face fits (SBS) get bored with it move on to surface or submarine fleet or specialise in aviation Medicine at a naval airbase.....

Bare in mind that whilst you can do these 'warry' courses, as an MO you will not be on the 'front line' as such and will be back with the HQ element. The CMT's/MA's and team medics will be up the front providing initial treatment to the wounded.
 
I think some MOs with the Cdo Forces would be very surprised to find themselves not on the “front line” - they may well be ‘one tactical bound’ behind the leading edge of own troops (which isn’t very far at all).

Indeed, under Future Cdo Force, each Coy may well have it’s own MO who’d sit at the right shoulder of the OC permanently.

On the wider Cdo point - I know plenty of Cdo trained MOs, and they’ve never struggled to get on the course.
 

ugly

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So do RM MO's wear a real Dettol badge?
 
I think some MOs with the Cdo Forces would be very surprised to find themselves not on the “front line” - they may well be ‘one tactical bound’ behind the leading edge of own troops (which isn’t very far at all).

Indeed, under Future Cdo Force, each Coy may well have it’s own MO who’d sit at the right shoulder of the OC permanently.

On the wider Cdo point - I know plenty of Cdo trained MOs, and they’ve never struggled to get on the course.
An MO for each Coy?! We are fortunate enough to have an MA for each Coy. I struggled to get an MO for CHF (billet held by JHF/Land but to be filled by Navy) for its first time ever (post 3Cdo BAS) after many business cases and dripping that an OR 7 building SO3 level Med Plans for complex deployments with no support from the JHC (and the old 'you don't belong to us so not interested' excuse from the other commands) was not the way to do business.

Did not know this was for the future Cdo force, unless they only ever intend to use a Coy at any one time?

In my experience and current doctrine (Telic/Herrick/Norway/exercises etc. and current doctrine) the MO is always back with the RAP, whilst classed as front line (you are correct) in a sense (Role 1) he would not be making section attacks, CP's and recceing for harbour positions (unless it went south maybe?).

Are you on about MO's getting on the jumps course? Unsure about this as there are no jumps billeted positions for MO's in the units other than Poole/Hereford. Unless they manage to sneak in on one somehow. But the rules have been rigid for years that only those in the Para billets can attend the course due to cost. We managed to get our MA at 30Cdo IX on one as they were part of SRS for 3CDOX (used to be BPT/BRF).
 
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Fang_Farrier

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Of course recruitment staff would never lie to a potential recruit stating all the adventure training, travel and sports opportunities that abound in the Armed Forces.
 
An MO for each Coy?! We are fortunate enough to have an MA for each Coy. I struggled to get an MO for CHF (billet held by JHF/Land but to be filled by Navy) for its first time ever (post 3Cdo BAS) after many business cases and dripping that an OR 7 building SO3 level Med Plans for complex deployments with no support from the JHC (and the old 'you don't belong to us so not interested' excuse from the other commands) was not the way to do business.

Did not know this was for the future Cdo force, unless they only ever intend to use a Coy at any one time?

In my experience and current doctrine (Telic/Herrick/Norway/exercises etc. and current doctrine) the MO is always back with the RAP, whilst classed as front line (you are correct) in a sense (Role 1) he would not be making section attacks, CP's and recceing for harbour positions (unless it went south maybe?).

Are you on about MO's getting on the jumps course? Unsure about this as there are no jumps billeted positions for MO's in the units other than Poole/Hereford. Unless they manage to sneak in on one somehow. But the rules have been rigid for years that only those in the Para billets can attend the course due to cost. We managed to get our MA at 30Cdo IX on one as they were part of SRS for 3CDOX (used to be BPT/BRF).
If you are operating Coy Gps, at range, at risk, then one way to drive down overall Operational Risk (which can involve casualties) is to provide “far forward” high level medical support

Of course, there are lots of ‘negatives’ with this (not least cost of MOs, and required numbers), but at teh end of the day, we have demonstrated that UK PLC can deliver a level of care during discretionary operations that is outstanding. Would any Operational Commander be willing to face the Daily Mail and explain why little Johnny died because we didn’t like the capitation costs of a MO (which for comparison purposes, is less than the fuel bill to get Boris to New York and back again)...?
 
If you are operating Coy Gps, at range, at risk, then one way to drive down overall Operational Risk (which can involve casualties) is to provide “far forward” high level medical support

Of course, there are lots of ‘negatives’ with this (not least cost of MOs, and required numbers), but at teh end of the day, we have demonstrated that UK PLC can deliver a level of care during discretionary operations that is outstanding. Would any Operational Commander be willing to face the Daily Mail and explain why little Johnny died because we didn’t like the capitation costs of a MO (which for comparison purposes, is less than the fuel bill to get Boris to New York and back again)...?
I disagree unless you are talking about MERT which is owned and run by the RAF. There is nothing that an MO would do in the first 24hrs of trauma that a BATLS trained MA (which the GDMO has to complete also prior to any operational billet) cannot do WRT life saving, the treatment doctrine is the same. It would make no difference.
 

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