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Medical Discharge

#1
Just had a full medical board and informed that i am P8 and will be medically discharged, told to go home do not go to work and dekit and wait for information regarding my last day of service. I have been told that i will most probably find out in the new year when that is. Does anyone know when they work the days out from is it the date of the medical board or when they receive it at Records or some other randomly selected day.

Thanks
 
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EScotia

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#2
Was taking around 6 months from Med Board to notification so may take up to a year until you're a civvy. Be aware that there is a huge backlog of people going through the medical discharge process and the Med Discharge Cell isn't staffed with anything other than minimal manpower.

The positive from this is all time counts towards pension and of course you're getting paid!
 
#3
Thanks EScotia slightly longer than i was led to believe by the med board. I'll just course myself to death to stave off the boredom instead. I have already served 26 years so wasn't too worried about the pension to be honest, just waiting to find out when i am a Mr and also what percentage they class me as. Getting paid is always a bonus!!!
 
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EScotia

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#4
In case you aren't aware, if you get medically discharged you cannot commute your pension so be very careful when planning your 2nd life!
 
#5
I have read through the Pap 10 info and had a look at other threads on here so was aware of that issue so had taken that out of the equation already, but thanks for the info. Planning for the rest of my life commencing and looking forward to it....!
 
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EScotia

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#6
I have read through the Pap 10 info and had a look at other threads on here so was aware of that issue so had taken that out of the equation already, but thanks for the info. Planning for the rest of my life commencing and looking forward to it....!
Flipping 'eck, that's a rarity :)
 
#8
Hi

Not sure if you've had your date yet ... But I had my board in mid Oct and received written confirmation early Nov then swiftly followed by a termination date of end Mar 2013. So it can come round fairly quick!

With regards to courses, you should have access to a PRU and its resources. They can help with funding for courses in addition to any Enhanced Learning Credits, inc T & S.

Hope this helps :)
 
#9
Hi Mustard1066,

Had my med board 10 Nov and still waiting for a date, they did say that it may not be until after Christmas due to silly season, I will have to pop to my local Pru and have a chat with them. Hope everything oes well with your relocation and your transition to civvy street.

Thanks
 
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Davetheclown

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#10
Hi been looking through these threads in desperation. I have had a bad four years, serious illness and injuries, I am close to my 20 yr point and realised my body is taking longer to recover, I am getting ill more often, my knees are creaking badly and I keep aggravating an old injury. I have trained and trained to get fit, which I am in some areas but stuff like AFT and PFA I can no longer keep up. I am considering seeing the MO as my unit are getting fed up with me. I am getting very depressed that I can not keep up with the youngsters also the constant illness and injuries are getting my a reputation. They are not going to put up with it any longer, I have 2 years to push I dont want to lose my pension if they kick me out, and what it the process if they do PAP 10 me. Typical army likes to hide its rules in legalese and in publications hard to find. Was going to sign off as they advertise that past 18 yrs and forty you get an immediate pension which look like lies to me. I have even considered filling in the AFCS form for 7 seperate injuries and illnesss, can I do that?
 
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EScotia

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#11
Hi been looking through these threads in desperation. I have had a bad four years, serious illness and injuries, I am close to my 20 yr point and realised my body is taking longer to recover, I am getting ill more often, my knees are creaking badly and I keep aggravating an old injury. I have trained and trained to get fit, which I am in some areas but stuff like AFT and PFA I can no longer keep up. I am considering seeing the MO as my unit are getting fed up with me. I am getting very depressed that I can not keep up with the youngsters also the constant illness and injuries are getting my a reputation. They are not going to put up with it any longer, I have 2 years to push I dont want to lose my pension if they kick me out, and what it the process if they do PAP 10 me. Typical army likes to hide its rules in legalese and in publications hard to find. Was going to sign off as they advertise that past 18 yrs and forty you get an immediate pension which look like lies to me. I have even considered filling in the AFCS form for 7 seperate injuries and illnesss, can I do that?
1. You've not been looking very hard then have you as there's a wealth of information on this site covering all your points.

2. The army certainly does not hide it's rules in legalise in fact it goes a very long way trying to ensure they are written in an easy to understand way or providing people e.g. your AGC staff or Medical Centre staff to explain them in a simple, confidential and easily understandable way.

3. Regarding signing off and pensions, point 1 applies but as it's you:

Join them & ask, they are the SME's in this area - Forces Pension Society - Fighting for the Forces and their Families

4. Regarding AFCS, point 1 applies again.

I can see why you might think your unit may be losing patience with you!
 
#12
Hi Mustard1066,

Had my med board 10 Nov and still waiting for a date, they did say that it may not be until after Christmas due to silly season, I will have to pop to my local Pru and have a chat with them. Hope everything oes well with your relocation and your transition to civvy street.

Thanks
Any news?

Remember that the discharge date has to take account of the transfer of your medical care to the NHS (some aspects of rehab and mental health can only be done by the military) and whether you have completed the most appropriate resettlement for you.

The references are 2012DIN01-170 the Defence Recovery Policy and the medical chapter of JSP 534 that has just been rewritten and published.
 
#13
Was going to sign off as they advertise that past 18 yrs and forty you get an immediate pension which look like lies to me. I have even considered filling in the AFCS form for 7 seperate injuries and illnesss, can I do that?[/QUOTE}

actually it depends on what pensions scheme your on, if you transfered on the ott to AFPS05 then yes
it is indeed possible to get a pension when your aged 40+ after completing 18 years service (its called an early departure payment) and the details will be in the booklet entitled "your pension scheme explained"

if you elected not to transfer then no you probably wont qualify under those rules (but who knowns they may make an exceptio if you have grounds which in all honestly you probably dont)

if you get reviewed under PAP10 then you will probably end up better off finacially but you would need professional help to work that out (as Escotia has provided links i wont)


really you cant complain about lack of info, the stuff is litterd all over the place, theres even a way for you to request a medical review with a view for discharge, however in your case your probably better off going to see the unit MO and asking for a referal to a shrink for your low mood & lack of self worth

i have no doubt you will do absolutly nothing to help yourself and end up back on some forum crying though
 
#14
Been given my date and am now carrying out courses at my local PRU to sort out my CV etc, looking at my main resettlement course and making sure everything is place for leaving..It is all going scarily smoothly at the moment (that'll be the kiss of death then), I will have a look at the JSP and DIN next week when i am in camp.
 
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Davetheclown

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#15
Was going to sign off as they advertise that past 18 yrs and forty you get an immediate pension which look like lies to me. I have even considered filling in the AFCS form for 7 seperate injuries and illnesss, can I do that?[/QUOTE}

actually it depends on what pensions scheme your on, if you transfered on the ott to AFPS05 then yes
it is indeed possible to get a pension when your aged 40+ after completing 18 years service (its called an early departure payment) and the details will be in the booklet entitled "your pension scheme explained"

if you elected not to transfer then no you probably wont qualify under those rules (but who knowns they may make an exceptio if you have grounds which in all honestly you probably dont)

if you get reviewed under PAP10 then you will probably end up better off finacially but you would need professional help to work that out (as Escotia has provided links i wont)


really you cant complain about lack of info, the stuff is litterd all over the place, theres even a way for you to request a medical review with a view for discharge, however in your case your probably better off going to see the unit MO and asking for a referal to a shrink for your low mood & lack of self worth

i have no doubt you will do absolutly nothing to help yourself and end up back on some forum crying though
Process has been started, you were correct about the 05 pension, it does not count for me. As for saying that I will do absolutely nothing, you were right. That spurred me on, got a interview with the MO, and I have a meeting with family Dr as well so that I have a balanced view (He happens to be RBL). Just spent a long while reading Escotia posts, very useful. Also paid out for Forces Pension Society. I have also informed my boss who is going to back me up, noticed I was very depressed so we are working out a plan. His words were it takes a stronger man to admit defeat, which may or may not be true. He is looking into getting me into a RPC so that I get time to sort it out.

I have looked at the SPVA site, I know some of its out of date, but going to go throught the AFCS process with family Dr to help fill out the forms. There is a lot of banter, vitriol and mistruths on this site that you have to filter out.

I am not a snivelling wretch, just a broken man that wants to get better, just like my last days in service to be happy.

Thank You Nanotm and Escotia for your help.
 
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EScotia

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Process has been started, you were correct about the 05 pension, it does not count for me. As for saying that I will do absolutely nothing, you were right. That spurred me on, got a interview with the MO, and I have a meeting with family Dr as well so that I have a balanced view (He happens to be RBL). Just spent a long while reading Escotia posts, very useful. Also paid out for Forces Pension Society. I have also informed my boss who is going to back me up, noticed I was very depressed so we are working out a plan. His words were it takes a stronger man to admit defeat, which may or may not be true. He is looking into getting me into a RPC so that I get time to sort it out.

I have looked at the SPVA site, I know some of its out of date, but going to go throught the AFCS process with family Dr to help fill out the forms. There is a lot of banter, vitriol and mistruths on this site that you have to filter out.

I am not a snivelling wretch, just a broken man that wants to get better, just like my last days in service to be happy.

Thank You Nanotm and Escotia for your help.
It is true (my bold) and well done for taking charge of your situation.

It also doesn't matter if your last days in service are happy or not as once you've left and moved on, irrespective of how long that takes, all that will spring easily to mind are the good things (and you'll be surprised at how many there are).
 
#17
were all broken in some form or another, perhaps a little bitter but generally good natured

that said it was being dragged screaming i didnt need help curtesy of my better half to the doc that triggerd the process for me, after 10 minutes of chatting i admitted things as well

i'm glad something helped and that your on the road to getting somethings sorted out
 
#18
Hi all,

I was badly injured earlier this year on a trg ex, I have been P-0 for 6 months now and im getting a review from my MO in 2 weeks, he has told me that I will be getting recommended for a Formal med board in December and most likely facing a MD as I can fire a weapon system.

My question is this; What does the med board consist of? what do they do/ask etc? ive done 16 years and im a SGT, the injury is not my fault, I am scared that I will get booted out without a payout or a GIP/monthly payout.
Any advice on this would be much appreciated.

Thanks

B E
 
#19
It used to be a 3 person med board with one of them being an Occupational Medicine Doctor,,, I doubt if that has changed much. If you were injured in a training exercise this year then whatever compensation you may be able to get would come under the AFCS as its post April 2005. That is all tabled, so I suggest you have a nose through the tables of which there are a thousand links on the threads in this forum.
I started my fight against the AFCS back in Jan 2010 and was awarded an interim decision last year... With 2 years before they will supposedly make a final decision which I will probably have to appeal against... What I mean is it can be a long hard fight against them, so just pretend its a CO's Friday Run and keep your head down and keep fighting till the end
 
#20
Hi Everyone,

I have just received F Med 23 after being made P8. I have my back pain from tabbing which got worse when playing squash in the gym. The injury was recurring and with the nature of my work and involvement on exercises led to aggravations. However, I don't think I have any records to show that I have played the squash in the gym. So I am not sure whether my injury will be taken as attributable to the service or not.

I think this will affect my pension. I am on AFPS 75. I have 21 days to agree with my F Med 23. Can I sign my consent form now and later if found my injury is non attributable, challenge through British legion as I think the injury originally came from tabbing.

Any thoughts on this.
 

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