Media use of ARRSE quotes

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Brandt

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#1
I, along with other members of ARRSE, have just been quoted directly on C4 news, on The Times website and possibly other media outlets.

This has been a huge news story, and we have (although unwittingly) added something. This translates into hard cash for the media organisations involved.

Tonight the other big story has been about the death of Terry Lloyd. Other journalists have praised him for upholding that most fundamental of journalistic codes: the moral strength to do the right thing despite the danger, so long as the story is told.

I therefore ask any journalist who has used my quote tonight to make a donation to Combat Stress, the charity dealing with ex-servicemen who have suffered psychological injuries.

I know that I could be accused by some of opening a can of worms; that others may post outrageous quotes just to raise money, but this is entirely anonymous, and I don't really believe that we are in that game.
 
#2
Brandt said:
I, along with other members of ARRSE, have just been quoted directly on C4 news, on The Times website and possibly other media outlets.

This has been a huge news story, and we have (although unwittingly) added something. This translates into hard cash for the media organisations involved.

Tonight the other big story has been about the death of Terry Lloyd. Other journalists have praised him for upholding that most fundamental of journalistic codes: the moral strength to do the right thing despite the danger, so long as the story is told.

I therefore ask any journalist who has used my quote tonight to make a donation to Combat Stress, the charity dealing with ex-servicemen who have suffered psychological injuries.

I know that I could be accused by some of opening a can of worms; that others may post outrageous quotes just to raise money, but this is entirely anonymous, and I don't really believe that we are in that game.
At the very best Brandt they are getting it from the horses mouth. At the worst, they are lazy feckers who can't be arsed to research and rely on plagiarism.
 
#3
There is a serious point to be made though. If the journos start quoting ARRSE posters on every defence issue - will the Very Senior Officers decide that serving personnel are no longer to use ARRSEs services???
 
#6
Fatbadge said:
They'd find it hard to prevent.
Impossible even! I hope.
 
#7
Can SIB still go anywhere in a blokes living quarters except for that little personal cupboard in the locker. If they can then they have the authority to search a blokes computer and any technician can easily find where a blokes been on the internet. A good technician will be able to find the login name for ARRSE posters. Check the login name against the days posts and Tommy ATkins gets 7 days or whatever
 
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Brandt

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Sven said:
Can SIB still go anywhere in a blokes living quarters except for that little personal cupboard in the locker. If they can then they have the authority to search a blokes computer and any technician can easily find where a blokes been on the internet. A good technician will be able to find the login name for ARRSE posters. Check the login name against the days posts and Tommy ATkins gets 7 days or whatever
I think the rozzers need reason to believe that a crime has been comitted before going through people's kit. I know that a good geek could quite easily hack into the site and find out our details, but could you imagine the media reaction if this were to happen? First hint of any spooky interference here, and we've got nothing to lose- it goes noisy!
 

oldbaldy

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Sven said:
Can SIB still go anywhere in a blokes living quarters except for that little personal cupboard in the locker. If they can then they have the authority to search a blokes computer and any technician can easily find where a blokes been on the internet. A good technician will be able to find the login name for ARRSE posters. Check the login name against the days posts and Tommy ATkins gets 7 days or whatever
Are they going to stand behind all the geeks in the internet caffs and ask if they are squaddies?
 
#10
Guys, put the tinfoil hats away. Arrse is used because it IS the one Military forum with the weight, and the media know some of our users and members are news if they belch.

As the message is being disseminated far and wide originating off these pages , it falls on us the users, to make sure we present the message in as sane a way as possible.

To that end, it's Current Affairs. Sweary bold type rants are funny in the Naafi , not in here, especially when media interest in this forum is going to be high over the next 24 hours, and not every media outlet is pro-CGS. Let's not give them any ammunition , hey?

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=694.html

As regards Media contributions for Forces CXharities, this is an interesting idea, which I'll kick up the CoC.

Thanks

PTP
 
#11
Sven said:
Can SIB still go anywhere in a blokes living quarters except for that little personal cupboard in the locker. If they can then they have the authority to search a blokes computer and any technician can easily find where a blokes been on the internet. A good technician will be able to find the login name for ARRSE posters. Check the login name against the days posts and Tommy ATkins gets 7 days or whatever
Lets not get paranoid chaps.
 
#12
media cant be stopped...this forum is meant to be open to civvies and military ex. or existing..and however much we get copy'd by the media quotes and all sorts...nothing much can be done...other than...dont talk if you dont want people to hear about it...

just my op.
 
#13
oldbaldy said:
Are they going to stand behind all the geeks in the internet caffs and ask if they are squaddies?
Of course not. That term is offensive. :roll: (See other thread)

NTM
 
#14
Brandt said:
I, along with other members of ARRSE, have just been quoted directly on C4 news, on The Times website and possibly other media outlets.

This has been a huge news story, and we have (although unwittingly) added something. This translates into hard cash for the media organisations involved.

Tonight the other big story has been about the death of Terry Lloyd. Other journalists have praised him for upholding that most fundamental of journalistic codes: the moral strength to do the right thing despite the danger, so long as the story is told.
I therefore ask any journalist who has used my quote tonight to make a donation to Combat Stress, the charity dealing with ex-servicemen who have suffered psychological injuries.

I know that I could be accused by some of opening a can of worms; that others may post outrageous quotes just to raise money, but this is entirely anonymous, and I don't really believe that we are in that game.
Slightly off subject, but are you sure about the emboldened sentence above? We are talking about ITV news here - which is basically a clip show stuffed with lowest common denominator, meaningless sound bites. I don't doubt the bravery, moral strength and one time journalistic integrity of Terry, but the channel he worked for needs to get its act together, value its staff, start 'dumbing up' and treat the British audience as grown-ups
 
#16
i am quite proud they think our ramblings are important enough to go in the papers. with some editors on hundreds of thousands a year, a donation to a forces charity,especially when they are being fecking lazy in the first place, is the least they could do.
 
#17
How is quoting someone plagiarism? If correctly sighted it is correct academic procedure.

Plagiarism would be if they used your words and said that they were their own.

Although I agree with the principle of donating money to charity for using quotes the media are under no obligation to give anything other than recognition to the user or arrse.
 
#18
It is a sad reflection on our media if they are resorting to the RUMOUR net for main line news. Soon we will have reports of g@at P*rn on the 10 o' clock news - on second thoughts it could make a change from the normal political dribble!
 
#19
PartTimePongo said:
Guys, put the tinfoil hats away. Arrse is used because it IS the one Military forum with the weight, and the media know some of our users and members are news if they belch.

As the message is being disseminated far and wide originating off these pages , it falls on us the users, to make sure we present the message in as sane a way as possible.

To that end, it's Current Affairs. Sweary bold type rants are funny in the Naafi , not in here, especially when media interest in this forum is going to be high over the next 24 hours, and not every media outlet is pro-CGS. Let's not give them any ammunition , hey?

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=694.html

As regards Media contributions for Forces CXharities, this is an interesting idea, which I'll kick up the CoC.

Thanks

PTP
MY rant at journos was put in bold because I felt that way. There are a few on this site who give the media too much ammunition to start with, The Walts, the Wannabes, the Holier than thou.

I am rightly suppressed, but I am blowed if I will tug my forelock to anyone. Especially as we are under a microscope. The Internet provides the ideal tool for anyone to exploit the fears, feelings and emotions of a unique peer group, and the journos appear to have hit the mother lode at the moment. My rant stands even though it has been culled.

=|
 
#20
No one is asking you to be suppressed DG.

But as an illustration of what I'm talking about , nip out and buy the Independent tomorrow morning. Actually you won't have to , we ARE the front page.......
 

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