Media silence

To get the discussion back to the UK freedom of speech, and the Law, rather than the complete mess that is the Israel Palestinian conflict, which is and will continue to be a debated and more importantly, wont be solved until the mindset of destroying the state of Israel is off the table...


The fact that 'Dankulas' trial was jury-less is another pointer towards the unbalancing of the law, and due process. His tweet back in July 2017 makes clear he understands the importance and seriousness of his trial. I would say the media also understood this which is why they have been mute about it the greater extent.



Your entirely right that harrumphing about bad laws is less than effective, that it is inaction and apathy that allow bad laws be brought into statute, it shows that the public has failed as much as the legislator. I would say though that the wider population is becoming more active in understanding they have a duty to be heard, and that questioning, voting and standing up and speaking does make a difference.


Sundays free speech rally at Hyde Park, shows this, and that is why I believe there was 'Radio Silence' across the UK's traditional media. While much of the poor governance and drawing up of laws that endanger liberty and free speech can be laid at the feet of 'New Labour' and Blair.

The following coalition and now Conservative government have done nothing to change this. To effect change it is incumbent on us the voting public. "harrumphing" to ones self is not going to make any difference though, it is time to put our shoulders to the wheel and make ourselves heard, contacting a member of parliament has never been easier...

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it only takes a few clicks to find an email address. Now while I have no doubt that many on ARRSE are active participants... What of your family, friends or workmates.
It is quite clear that today ,whilst most people have access to 'stuff' then they are ambivalent to the Political climate and as nothing really changes at the bottom ,it causes people to be disengaged especially as thier little mans voice is being drowned out by big buisness and vested interests. I remember what it was like in the 80's when protest was rife from street demo's to rock music millions were at it. I don't think over the last 30 years a lot has really changed for the less well off but the rest of us have become so comfortable with the status quo that we can only be bothered to make some noise if 'directed' by social media which whilst endemic is only a forum for 'virtual protest. A bit like on here, we can all debate, name call ,laugh at or whatever but Arrse ain't gonna change the world.
 
Don't like the truth hey.....how did the British gain an Empire, we didn't buy it. If you have no valid point to espouse then sit in the corner and be quiet there's a good doggy.........
So what you're say is that the British gained their Empire by gassing Jews?

I'm fairly certain that's not correct. Do you have any examples of this specific behaviour you'd like to share?
 
It is quite clear that today ,whilst most people have access to 'stuff' then they are ambivalent to the Political climate and as nothing really changes at the bottom ,it causes people to be disengaged especially as thier little mans voice is being drowned out by big buisness and vested interests. I remember what it was like in the 80's when protest was rife from street demo's to rock music millions were at it. I don't think over the last 30 years a lot has really changed for the less well off but the rest of us have become so comfortable with the status quo that we can only be bothered to make some noise if 'directed' by social media which whilst endemic is only a forum for 'virtual protest. A bit like on here, we can all debate, name call ,laugh at or whatever but Arrse ain't gonna change the world.
Indeed, but i dont agree its a class or rich against poor issue though. The 'vested interests' are not exclusively commercial. Globalism is not just about profit.

 
All the political parties have over the decades moved left. This I believe that they all have become, comfortable with more and more of the population particulary centrists and those to the right of center becoming disconnected, apathetic and thinking that their voice and vote counts for nothing. The trope of tramp kicking Tories has already been played in this thread.
The left though has capitalised on this by encouraging many forms of socially stigmatising to make any dissenting voice to be seen and nasty, bigoted, small minded hateful.
I mean wont anybody think of the fluffy kittens... CoD cats don't count obviously there Nazis.
I would tend to disagree ,in the UK the direction of travel has been fairly Right ward, to mainly centre or Centre Right . The Left since the break up of the Soviet Union have been quite well marginalised by the inference that Socialists in the West were the same as in Soviet Russia. Their resurgence, I personally think is due to the disenfranchised getting an unexpected voice with the Brexit vote and gaining confidence that they can actually make a difference. Maybe these people are fed up of the status quo, where they seem to be last in the queue to share in the benefits of what is supposedly the 5th largest economy in the world. I do dispair though with some of the Student Union style comments and actions within Labour it does the Party no good.
 
Indeed, but i dont agree its a class or rich against poor issue though. The 'vested interests' are not exclusively commercial. Globalism is not just about profit.

No your correct it isn't all about Profit but it is about power balance, there has been a long period of time where a minority of people seem to have benefited to a greater extent than thier fellow man. Blair and New Labour tried imitating the Tory's to a certain extent and that also didn't work and this has allowed the more broad Socialist ideals to find a voice lately. surely Freedom of Expression, Social Justice and Freedom from Exploitation are not bad principles, quite how to bring that about I for certain haven't a clue but one thing I do know ,the status quo ain't working..........
 
It was a simple enough question. Are you having difficulty answering it, hence the ad hominem personal abuse?
You tell me.......when did the UK gas jews. The British Colonial Service much preferred shooting ,hanging or starvation, sometimes disease too. I wonder how many indigenous people did the Empire kill deliberately bet it was more than the 6 million the Nazi's managed but then they were amatuers. Strictly speaking I suppose it was the East India and Hudson River Companies that started it but if you want the worlds minerals then stealing them is much easier than bartering or buying. In anycase the rest of the world is far inferior to the British especially if they were non white(oh dear now you'll call me racist I do hope your not offended)
It also was a simple enough question....are you a practicing imbecile ,or is it your day job ,as for ad hominem personal abuse, I thought I would indulge in, what appears to be your favourite pass time, especially as you seem to have perfected the art so well.
 
We see the no platforming of anyone the left do not like in universities,
I know Jo Johnson is very fond of saying this but his examples didn't exactly stand up to close scrutiny.

Is there any evidence that it's true, as opposed to private societies deciding for themselves who to invite while other private societies decide differently?
 
You tell me.......when did the UK gas jews. The British Colonial Service much preferred shooting ,hanging or starvation, sometimes disease too. I wonder how many indigenous people did the Empire kill deliberately bet it was more than the 6 million the Nazi's managed but then they were amatuers. Strictly speaking I suppose it was the East India and Hudson River Companies that started it but if you want the worlds minerals then stealing them is much easier than bartering or buying. In anycase the rest of the world is far inferior to the British especially if they were non white(oh dear now you'll call me racist I do hope your not offended)
It also was a simple enough question....are you a practicing imbecile ,or is it your day job ,as for ad hominem personal abuse, I thought I would indulge in, what appears to be your favourite pass time, especially as you seem to have perfected the art so well.
Damn.
Those Brits were scum.
Reminds me of the Python 'what did the Romans ever do for us?' sketch.
Try education, medicine, inoculation, electricity, railways, roads, democracy etc etc etc.
Most nations spunked it all away, of course, but there you go...
Which is why they are now - in Trump's words - Shitholes, relying on handouts every 5 minutes.
Most of which is stlen by scum who already have 47 solid gold bathsets and a fleet of Ferraris.
 
The fact that 'Dankulas' trial was jury-less is another pointer towards the unbalancing of the law, and due process.
Trying criminal cases 'in summary procedure' i.e. a judge alone has been part of Scots Law since before the Union. It's not an indication of the recent unbalancing of anything.
 
Damn.
Those Brits were scum.
Reminds me of the Python 'what did the Romans ever do for us?' sketch.
Try education, medicine, inoculation, electricity, railways, roads, democracy etc etc etc.
Most nations spunked it all away, of course, but there you go...
Which is why they are now - in Trump's words - Shitholes, relying on handouts every 5 minutes.
Most of which is stlen by scum who already have 47 solid gold bathsets and a fleet of Ferraris.
You are right but all those things were a by product of Colonialism at the point of a gun. how did we Brits rule half the world with a few thousand troops and administrators, by killing a few ,pour encourager les autres as the other great Colonial power said. France and Britain carved up the world and look what the result is chaos but hey it was jolly fun whilst it lasted.............................
 
You are right but all those things were a by product of Colonialism at the point of a gun. how did we Brits rule half the world with a few thousand troops and administrators, by killing a few ,pour encourager les autres as the other great Colonial power said. France and Britain carved up the world and look what the result is chaos but hey it was jolly fun whilst it lasted.............................
Yep.
And notice all the nations who had a great shout back in the 60s for getting rid of the colonial yoke are now kissing arse for handouts, after everything went tits up.
 
Yep.
And notice all the nations who had a great shout back in the 60s for getting rid of the colonial yoke are now kissing arse for handouts, after everything went tits up.
It was all going to end in tears eventually, with hindsight ,when dividing Africa ,why did the men with marker pens not ensure that tribal lines were clear and used as boundaries. Probably because the route from the diamonds to the gold was a straight line and sod the locals.
 
It was all going to end in tears eventually, with hindsight ,when dividing Africa ,why did the men with marker pens not ensure that tribal lines were clear and used as boundaries. Probably because the route from the diamonds to the gold was a straight line and sod the locals.
As Harry paget Flashman said 'Not one n***** would be in the barracoons unless the tribal kings had traded them for a rusty musket and a bunch of Brummagen rejects."
 
I understood that to be your assertion. Are you now withdrawing that claim?

(To be honest, I have difficulty making sense out of most of what you post - your education appears to have stopped at primary school level.)
I didn't that was your statement. when trying to belittle someone try to remember what you actually said, the alzheimers kicking in again? ,you really should see someone about that.
 
I wrote to my, tory, MP about this in a thought out, well written and non insulting tone. Her predecessor would have sent me a letter. This one sent me a bland acknowledgement on email that effectively translated as "**** off." The Conservatives should be fighting these trends but are competing with Labour to see who can censor us more.
Perhaps you could air the e-mail. Feel free to redact as necessary. Conservative Central Office will pick up no doubt.
 

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