Medals that you shouldn't/wouldn't wear ?

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A chap was showing me his medals one of which was awarded for his time in Zimbabawe/Rhodesia (The Zimbabawe Medal) when the British government and military, supervised the handing over of the place to local rule.

I politely asked him whether he felt he could wear said medal with any degree of integrity, in light of the fact that the process he took part in, essentially handed a country, that was a regional superpower, over to a bunch of communist thugs who turned the place into a basket case banana republic within a few short years.

He said he had never thought about it like that and that it was an amusing point of view.

Would anyone else consider, not wearing a decoration for a deployment, that in hindsight turned out to have been a historical embarresment.

Max
 
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Do you want someone to say the OSM Afghanistan?
 

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The same argument could be said for NI - we handed power to the group that we fought for over 3 decades!!!! :(

Do I have to hand back my one and only bit of bling?
 
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He is lucky then to get that medal, I only got the Rhodesian Medal

I hope you know I spent a good 20 days over there on Op Agila

it was hard work maintaining a cease fire, and that was just between military and civpol from UK and Australia.

I wonder if we didn't have as many tours going on as they do now with bling attached would these topics raise themselves so much. Us Cold War Warriors found bling hard to come by beside Op Banner :)
 
#7
I would say people have earned that by dint of service, especially now when we see others that don't wear it. It's interesting to see some WOs1 within the trade without it.

There are plenty of people wearing MBEs who shouldn't.
 
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Do you want someone to say the OSM Afghanistan?
Not at all, as far as I'm aware Afghanistan is not and has not been embaressing for anyone who has been awarded OSM Afghanistan.

The Rhodesia issue just happens to be close to my heart for various reasons, hence the question.
 
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A chap was showing me his medals one of which was awarded for his time in Zimbabawe/Rhodesia (The Zimbabawe Medal) when the British government and military, supervised the handing over of the place to local rule.

I politely asked him whether he felt he could wear said medal with any degree of integrity, in light of the fact that the process he took part in, essentially handed a country, that was a regional superpower, over to a bunch of communist thugs who turned the place into a basket case banana republic within a few short years.

He said he had never thought about it like that and that it was an amusing point of view.

Would anyone else consider, not wearing a decoration for a deployment, that in hindsight turned out to have been a historical embarresment.

Max
I've never understood the obsession with medals you should/shouldn't wear. It's simple really. You wear the medals you are awarded if you are allowed to wear them according to Queen's regs. If I've been awarded it, I'll wear it, but I'd never campaign for a medal nor turn one down if I've been awarded it. Politicians choose the campaigns, we go until we're told to come back.
 
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A chap was showing me his medals one of which was awarded for his time in Zimbabawe/Rhodesia (The Zimbabawe Medal) when the British government and military, supervised the handing over of the place to local rule.

I politely asked him whether he felt he could wear said medal with any degree of integrity, in light of the fact that the process he took part in, essentially handed a country, that was a regional superpower, over to a bunch of communist thugs who turned the place into a basket case banana republic within a few short years.He said he had never thought about it like that and that it was an amusing point of view.

Would anyone else consider, not wearing a decoration for a deployment, that in hindsight turned out to have been a historical embarresment.

Max
Thats his fault is it? I wouldn't have been as polite as that man. He was awarded that medal by the British state for risking his life overseas, you think he really gives fcuk that you think he doesnt deserve it? Id have bought him a drink for his small contribution to dragging the UK out of its 20th century colonial hangover.
 
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The same argument could be said for NI - we handed power to the group that we fought for over 3 decades!!!! :(

Do I have to hand back my one and only bit of bling?


Hey up Auld-Yin you should have received one of these from CinC Herforder operation BAOR, if not feel free to use mine when appropriate
 

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I politely asked him whether he felt he could wear said medal with any degree of integrity, in light of the fact that the process he took part in, essentially handed a country, that was a regional superpower, over to a bunch of communist thugs who turned the place into a basket case banana republic within a few short years.
I think that criteria would probably apply to these gents and they seem to have no issues with gonging up to the max:

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In fact there are some people who have absolutely no problem dining out on the awards they picked in the service of questionable causes:

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I politely asked him whether he felt he could wear said medal with any degree of integrity, in light of the fact that the process he took part in, essentially handed a country, that was a regional superpower, over to a bunch of communist thugs who turned the place into a basket case banana republic within a few short years.
Bit like the Victory in Europe Medal then!
 
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So, Maxrated, as a Seffrican, I should give my pieces of bling back? If so, to the previous (racist bastard whitey) government - the one that no longer exists - or do I return them to the current
bunch of communist thugs who turned the place into a basket case banana republic within a few short years
government? Or do I just leave them at the back of the drawer, where they have been lingering since they were given to me? Just asking, mind...
 
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So, Maxrated, as a Seffrican, I should give my pieces of bling back? If so, to the previous (racist bastard whitey) government - the one that no longer exists - or do I return them to the current government? Or do I just leave them at the back of the drawer, where they have been lingering since they were given to me? Just asking, mind...


My old man has, among others, a medal awarded by the Polish government for assisting starving Poles while a POW himself; another awarded by the Belgian government for rearguard action in the retreat to Dunkirk; another, commemorative (I think), medal awarded to him as someone who survived being put in front of a firing squad by the SS.

None of those seem anything to be sorry for, all were awarded and received in good faith by the relevant governments of the time for actions THEY ( not some civil servant in MoD) considered should be rewarded. Some 70 years later it's not for anyone to rewrite history because it doesn't fit their, current, ideas of worth.
 
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I certainly wouldn't wear this one ...

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Mind you, if I even got within a sniff of being entitled, I wouldn't need to worry about the pension!

Realistically, I agree with Nickhere - you're awarded it, you wear it. You're not awarded it (or you're given it as 'accept not wear') you don't. Simples.
 
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