MBT in a C130 and A400 payload?

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  1. Chaps,

    Having a discussion with a friend who says that the C130 can move MBT's and has seen a Chally 2 in the back and that the A400 has less payload than a Herc.

    This seems to go against what i knew of the types, please can someone give me an expert opinion?

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  3. He's a bit wrong. C-130 will not accommodate an MBT. The USAF gives the following payloads for the various models of C-130.

    Maximum Allowable Payload:
    C-130E, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
    C-130H, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
    C-130J, 42,000 pounds (19,090 kilograms)
    C-130J-30, 44,000 (19,958 kilograms)
    Maximum Normal Payload:
    C-130E, 36,500 pounds (16,590 kilograms)
    C-130H, 36,500 pounds (16,590 kilograms)
    C-130J, 34,000 pounds (15,422 kilograms)
    C-130J-30, 36,000 pounds (16,329 kilograms)

    A400M has a stated max payload of just over 37,000kg.

    CR2 weighs somewhere in the order of 62,000kg... So if your mate wants to fit a Chally in the back of either, then good luck to him.

    You can get CVR(T) in the back of a Herc - the Rockapes used to do (1980s, IIRC) an airshow demonstration piece where a Herc came in doing something approximating to a Khe Sanh approach, landed and disgorged a number of rocks plus a Scorpion. They then 'seized the airfield' after charging about firing blanks (coupled with some simulated explosions).
     
  4. I guess you'd get a CR2 into either of them.

    Eventually.
     
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  5. Your friend needs to do some research. You could not get a CR2 into a Herc let alone get airborne afterwards. You might just get one into an A400M but you will not get airborne. The C-17 will lift an M1 Abrams (about 63 tonnes), so might lift a CR2.
     
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  6. A Tracked Rapier used to just fit into a Herc with about two inches clearance all round. However a TR was only about half the size and a fifth of the weight of an MBT....
     
  7. You can get CVR(T) in the back of a Herc - the Rockapes used to do (1980s, IIRC) an airshow demonstration piece where a Herc came in doing something approximating to a Khe Sanh approach, landed and disgorged a number of rocks plus a Scorpion. They then 'seized the airfield' after charging about firing blanks (coupled with some simulated explosions).[/QUOTE]

    Do you have a link to the painting they must have commissioned?
     
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  8. Your friend is presumably confused between C-17 and C-130. C-17 can move MBTs (although I'm not sure whether it's currently cleared to carry CR2) and has a bigger payload than an A400.

    A400 has about twice the payload of a C-130, and C-17 has about twice the payload of an A400.
     
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  9. Shame I can only give you the one 'like' for this. Well done.
     
  10. Sympathetic_Reaction

    Sympathetic_Reaction LE Book Reviewer

    They probably hire out either the big Russia birds or the C17 for the big stuff....Remember that CR2 and the others are 60+ tonne when fully kitted but strip off the armour packs and all the stowed kit and fuel and you can drop the weight down quite a bit.

    Just checked - C17 will take 77,000 Kg in the back so easily take a CR2.

    S_R
     

  11. Your mate is wrong,

    The following platforms(MSP's), with 7 RHA kit rigged for drop will fit in the aircraft with not much clearance either side so you can see a chally 2 having a problem squeezing in

    pinz-on-msp.jpg


    pinz-on-msp-rear.jpg
     
  12. Given enough lube and enough hydraulic pressure...
     
  13. I never said it'd be pretty...