Maybe the state department official is a traitor?

#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6074182.stm

A senior US state department official has said that the US has shown "arrogance and stupidity" in Iraq.

Alberto Fernandez made the remarks during an interview with Arabic television station al-Jazeera.

The state department says Mr Fernandez was quoted incorrectly - but BBC Arabic language experts say Mr Fernandez did indeed use the words.
Maybe he had to resign first before making such a statement?
 

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#2
KGB_resident said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6074182.stm

A senior US state department official has said that the US has shown "arrogance and stupidity" in Iraq.

Alberto Fernandez made the remarks during an interview with Arabic television station al-Jazeera.

The state department says Mr Fernandez was quoted incorrectly - but BBC Arabic language experts say Mr Fernandez did indeed use the words.
Maybe he had to resign first before making such a statement?
...and stand as the Democratic nominee... :lol:
 
#3
Traitor? Nah just a propagandist who has realised that you can't come on Arab TV and lie all the time. He gets quite flustered when he he appears on the Al Jazeera show 'opposite directions', so maybe that explains the slip. :wink:
 
#4
castlereagh said:
Traitor? Nah just a propagandist who has realised that you can't come on Arab TV and lie all the time. He gets quite flustered when he he appears on the Al Jazeera show 'opposite directions', so maybe that explains the slip. :wink:
Now that's interesting, castlereagh! Any chance you could expand on it?

I'm not in any way trying to sow you off, castlereach: I really would appreciate your opinion on this.

MsG
 

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#5
...and maybe you should re-post under a new User name Sergei-Loki springs to mind !!

Here's a new avatar to go with it:


Your Schadenfreude is showing.....by the way, has Putin decided whether or not invade Georgia yet ?

And how IS the war on Chechnya going ?


Le Chevre
 

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#6
I didn't notice Goatman...did Sergey steal Mjolnir?...Naughty boy Sergey :twisted:

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#7
Bugsy7 said:
castlereagh said:
Traitor? Nah just a propagandist who has realised that you can't come on Arab TV and lie all the time. He gets quite flustered when he he appears on the Al Jazeera show 'opposite directions', so maybe that explains the slip. :wink:
Now that's interesting, castlereagh! Any chance you could expand on it?

I'm not in any way trying to sow you off, castlereach: I really would appreciate your opinion on this.

MsG
He usually appears on 'Opposite Directions' so I am assuming that is where is made is little faux pas. Anyway opposite directions is Al Jazeera's best rated interview show which usually lets the viewers call in (and quite frankly the viewers hate him). Though he has rather good MSA, he is rather priggish and tries to stay on message the best he can but some time he slips, as the host Faisal Al Kasim is a very tough interviewer. But I guess you have to give Fernandez his props because he is openly critical of Al Jazeera but is still the only US official who has the gumption to go on the channel.
 
#8
Boys, boys. It's only a couple of weeks away from the elections! Opinion in the US is swinging against the war big time, even to the extent that the administration is looking to blame the Generals. This is despite the fact that GW is the Commander in Chief. There are points to be earned by coming out against the war; Fernandez is (I believe) a diplomat (chuckle) and supposedly reflects the view of the White House. There's going to be a lot of filth raked in the next two weeks. Should be interesting: watch UK elections in a couple of years or when the Brownster takes the helm!
 
#9
A traitor for telling the truth?Only in a Bush Admnistration.

Should he resign?He doesn't have to.He will probably "retire for health reasons" before the week is over.

He should have kept his mouth shut and kept collecting a payslip like all the rest of them.On the other hand he can find a better paying job as an "analyst" on CNN.
 
#10
castlereagh said:
Bugsy7 said:
castlereagh said:
Traitor? Nah just a propagandist who has realised that you can't come on Arab TV and lie all the time. He gets quite flustered when he he appears on the Al Jazeera show 'opposite directions', so maybe that explains the slip. :wink:
Now that's interesting, castlereagh! Any chance you could expand on it?

I'm not in any way trying to sow you off, castlereach: I really would appreciate your opinion on this.

MsG
He usually appears on 'Opposite Directions' so I am assuming that is where is made is little faux pas. Anyway opposite directions is Al Jazeera's best rated interview show which usually lets the viewers call in (and quite frankly the viewers hate him). Though he has rather good MSA, he is rather priggish and tries to stay on message the best he can but some time he slips, as the host Faisal Al Kasim is a very tough interviewer. But I guess you have to give Fernandez his props because he is openly critical of Al Jazeera but is still the only US official who has the gumption to go on the channel.
Many thanks indeed for this, castlereagh. In the meantime, I've genned myself up on both "Opposite Directions"and Faisal al Kasim. I agree that Fernandez displayed a lot of bottle to appear.

In addition, I apologise for spelling your name wrong in my earlier post (josst a t'ickie Oirishman, y'know?).

Thanks again for the info.

MsG
 
#11
Goatman said:
...and maybe you should re-post under a new User name Sergei-Loki springs to mind !!

Here's a new avatar to go with it:


Your Schadenfreude is showing.....by the way, has Putin decided whether or not invade Georgia yet ?

And how IS the war on Chechnya going ?


Le Chevre
Loki? Thank you for the proposition. Maybe somebody with name Kennet Gerbert Blair would use this nick-name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki

Like Odin (though to a lesser extent), Loki bears many names : the Sly-One, the Sly-God, the Shape-Changer, the Trickster, the Sky Traveller, the Sky Walker, the Lie-Smith...
Very good for K.G.Blair or another Blair.

Mr.Putin is not so ... er intelligent as learned mr.Bush to unleash stupid wars. Economic santions toward Georgia are more effective.

As for Chechnya, then now we hardly ever can use a word 'war'. Number of rebels is almost invisible. Pro-Kremlin ruler in Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov has a big (more than 10,000) in fact personal army (formed mainly from former guerillas). Btw, 50 of them guard Russian military builders in Lebabnon. I fancy, they always met with Hezbollah's fighters, prayed together and ... only Allah knows what else.
 
#14
MrPVRd said:
This is the State Department blaming the Department of Defense, getting the boot in first.
It's a bit late for that. State has been having its teeth kicked in by DoD since 2001. What we're seeing is State having a "We fcuking told you so" moment.

Nonetheless, the guy in question will probably be stamping passports in Guatemala by Thanksgiving.
 
#15
Wouldn't mind stamping a few Guat Passports mi self.
john
Still a Guat short for mi full Central American set, unless of course some of the girls in Big C or Queen of Hearts where lieing on cuntry of origin.
 
#16
jonwilly said:
Wouldn't mind stamping a few Guat Passports mi self.
john
Still a Guat short for mi full Central American set, unless of course some of the girls in Big C or Queen of Hearts where lieing on cuntry of origin.
What an interesting life you appear to lead 'jon'...!
 
#18
Alberto apologises

From the State Department

Mr. Alberto Fernandez’s Comments on Al-Jazeera

In response to questions about his recent interview with Al-Jazeera, the following is a comment attributable to Mr. Alberto Fernandez:

"Upon reading the transcript of my appearance on Al-Jazeera, I realized that I seriously misspoke by using the phrase 'there has been arrogance and stupidity' by the U.S. in Iraq. This represents neither my views nor those of the State Department. I apologize."


So Alberto are you saying that instead of learning arabic 'properly' you were busy doing other things? Or that when then thumb screws finally came off, you learnt the error of your ways? :twisted:
 
#19
MrPVRd said:
This is the State Department blaming the Department of Defense, getting the boot in first.
Article on this on page 5 of today's Guardian supports this:

'Mr Fernandez made some of his most critical remarks when he was asked by his Arab questioner about splits between the Pentagon and the state department over who had made the "mistakes" in Iraq.
'"It is difficult for any politician in whatever administration to admit mistakes, because people in the east as well as the west don't like to admit they have made mistakes or are wrong," he repled."This is the mentality of the people, the mentality of power, authority, autocratic thinking. This is reality".'

If this was the context of his remarks, hard to imagine him being seriously misunderstood in translation.
 
#20
The US ambassador to Iraq has urged Iraqi leaders to work harder to achieve political and security goals, saying a struggle was going on between moderate and extremist forces.

Zalmay Khalilzad said on Tuesday in a joint media interview with General George Casey from Baghdad that success in Iraq was still possible and could be achieved on a "realistic timetable".

Khalilzad said Iraqi leaders had agreed to a timeline to reduce violence, and that a "national compact" should be in place in the next 12 months if the Iraqi government lives up to agreements.

He said the US will succeed in Iraq, but it will take patience and resolve, and the US should redouble efforts to succeed.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BEEA8B80-1896-4E83-AB3C-6FF218741D77.htm
 
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