Martyrdom Videos

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  1. cpunk

    cpunk LE Moderator

    BBC radio news are reporting that the rozzers have found 'half a dozen' martyrdom videos apparently of suspects arrested as part of the airline bomb plot.

    Whoops! That's going to be tricky to explain to the magistrates. :D
  2. If details of this investigation keep leaking out, the magistrates' court may be as far as it gets.
  3. I want to see these bastards put away please stop reporting on things that are covered on PACE
  4. Who the hell keeps briefing the Press with so much detail?
  5. Isn't it convenient how the whole case getting compromised might give the government an excuse to drop all the charges. :evil:

    Come on Home Office.....declare Paranoia State 1 and rising. She canna take it, captain!
  6. Paranoia would surely dictate that the govt. would want convictions to prove to us how much we need them to protect us.

    Anyway, the Beeb has been reporting things like this for over seventy years. They wouldn't jeopardise a court case, our troops lives, yes, but not a court case by leaking information. They'd end up in the dock themselves and that really does focus their minds.
  7. If they keep leaking this sh*t out, the defence will have a field day.
    This level of information can only come from a police source.
  8. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    Not necessarily Biccies, it could also be the civil servant(s) whose job it is is to liaise with the ploice on this matter to ensure the gobment are kept aware of events. I feel that this is a more likely source as the boys in blue would love to stick these guys away if they are guilty.
  9. Fair point AY, fair point.
  10. BBC this afternoon said it was a Police source.
  11. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    Fair do's.

    However, are the BBC as 'neutral' politically as they used to be? It really don't matter as this gobment will get out exactly what they want to get out, and if it is wrong, they will have someone lined up for the blame.
  12. Theres an awful lot of stuff coming out from across the pond.

    They certainly dont have any qualms about leaking it all to the press.
  13. It's the battle for hearts and minds - convincing the UK electorate that the nasty people are out there that's important, rather than putting a handful of people away.

    With all the information they have, convicted or not, if these people who were arrested are guilty, they'll be living with their very own Security bloke for the rest of their lives, so they're not going to be plotting any more.

    In the bigger scheme what's more important? A steady trickle of "Vote for us, we'll save you - look what they were going to do" messages, that shape public perception, or 6 people being sent to prison for conspiracy, in about six months time, that the press allocates half a dozen lines to on page 15?

    (And "police sources" is a very broad term - Home Office Civil Servants who work out at Scotland Yard can be referred to as "Police sources" - especially when the press are told in their anonymous briefing to attribute them as such.)
  14. I just wonder if these 'martyrdom' videos are like the 'Disneyland bomb recce video' found in US. Remember at the time it was stated quite unequivocally that a terror cell had been caught while plotting to commit atrocities...blah blah. It turned out to be utter rubbish, politically expedient fear and paranoia, it was actually some kids' holiday videos. But Bush actually went on the world's press affirming it was definitely terrorism. If we can't trust the US President to tell the truth, then we certainly can't trust our lying bunch of lawyers.

    I reckon all this is going to turn out to be a load of crap. I do believe there are disaffected islamic thugs out there but there's certainly no nationwide conspiracy. It's as fishy as the Jonbenet Ramsay case!
  15. Why should the government want to drop the charges?