Married soldiers not entitled to MQ's after 8 years..

#21
If a Regiment gets posted, and there isnt enough housing available in the local area, the families will have to be left at the previous posting, which would cause a knock on effect for the familes moving into that posting. There would have to be a large investment in singlie accomodation, as pads would have to live in this until housing becomes available. I cant see it working effectively.
Bearing in mind it's an old article the issue of Pads temporary going the SLI route due to MSQ unavailabilty is not unusual & 'some' Units (via APC) have sent a notice out stating promotional factors will need to be considered before acceptance of assignment order.

In all honesty I'm all in favour for getting service personnel softly gently pushed onto the housing market at the earliest pragmatic opportunity although the housing refurb budget is'nt an empty purse and the likes of welfare accommodation I suspect may well be reduced and restricted to unable to cope with the transition period.
 
#22
I bought my first house at 24 and single....it seemed to be the unwritten rule and was encouraged in the Corps....I am always surprised when I read stories of lads leaving after their 22 and having no where to go except some scum bag council who hate solders as an SOP.

The other thing was I never fancied living on a FADS patch....Feck I wanted to be in civ pop when I was out of green....not on a pussers council estate with most chicks having done the UG3 to 1 course.
 
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#23
This doesn't affect me, but I agree it sounds like a good idea, as long as it's managed properly. One problem with this, at least in the early days, is that I know a lot of pads who struggle to make ends meet when they're in pad, there'll be tears before bed time when/if some are forced onto the property market.
 
#24
If this turns out to be the case then the powers that be certainly seem intent on ridding the Army of all it's attractive points. At the moment the future promises very little chance of operational deployments and limited travel and adventure. The ever shrinking benefits, traditionally used by many individual Soldiers to justify or offset the sacrifices made during service life will only make the Army an even less attractive career.

As for the blokes already in, If you start dicking around with their families then they'll simply vote with their feet and the headshed will struggle to even maintain their little defence force of 82,000 disillusioned servicemen and women.
 
#25
As a mortgage adviser, I get enquiries all the time from guys on their last 6 months of their 22 wondering how they can buy a house... the answer is ranging somewhere from difficult to impossible.


CHrist knows how they will implement it but the idea is going along the right direction...
 
#26
This doesn't affect me, but I agree it sounds like a good idea, as long as it's managed properly. One problem with this, at least in the early days, is that I know a lot of pads who struggle to make ends meet when they're in pad, there'll be tears before bed time when/if some are forced onto the property market.
Quite so. I have total confidence that the management of this scheme will be top notch. <sound of one hand clapping>
 
#28
An interesting proposal. No doubt they will trial run the scheme with MP's housing.
 
#29
So what happens when you leave? I can remember thinking, "Feck this, I am not living in a Garrison town now I have the chance" and fecked off to the other end of the country poste haste without the hassle of trying to sell a house in an area that was pretty run down.

Its an interesting one though. My sister was bounced around UK/NI and Germany for 16 years, never being in a place more that 18 months, there is no way she and her hubby could have put down roots and bought where they were located. (As it happens, they bought a house in Norfolk and rented it out whilst being posted away).
 
#31
Presumably the MQs will be sold to one or more private companies? The end users won't be encouraged to buy their own properties because the rents will be pitched at a level higher than they pay now but not so much that their heads will be turned towards buying. As with all privatisations the result will be a few people getting very rich in exchange for higher prices and indifferent service for the many. The few will probably plead that they need to spend on the infrastructure and be let off paying tax, poor ****ers living in their crummy homes will not be let off paying tax.
 
#33
As a mortgage adviser, I get enquiries all the time from guys on their last 6 months of their 22 wondering how they can buy a house... the answer is ranging somewhere from difficult to impossible.


CHrist knows how they will implement it but the idea is going along the right direction...
I suppose that's along the same line as banks then.When I left the RAF,I tried to open a bank account with the Ulster Bank & was refused because I had not had an account in the Province before & had no credit history (I'm talking 1996 here) & the last bank account I had was six years with the Sparky in BFG along with the nomadic lifestyle of HM forces.
 
#34
Being someone who's not long since moved into MQs, I was always planning on saving for a deposit on a house as soon as possible - with any luck there'll be some kind of system in place to help first time buyers as has been said.

That'd be really handy.
 
#35
Presumably the MQs will be sold to one or more private companies? The end users won't be encouraged to buy their own properties because the rents will be pitched at a level higher than they pay now but not so much that their heads will be turned towards buying. As with all privatisations the result will be a few people getting very rich in exchange for higher prices and indifferent service for the many. The few will probably plead that they need to spend on the infrastructure and be let off paying tax, poor ****ers living in their crummy homes will not be let off paying tax.
Most MOD quarters were sold off to Annington in 1996. The MOD leases them back.

House of Commons - Defence - Fifteenth Report
 
#36
I know what they should do but wont....the 15 pounds you get or I did get when I got my LSGC medal was in the old days meant to go towards you buying a house when 15 quid was a bucket load of money...bin the MQs and money saved use some of it to give the lads a mega bung at 15 for being a good boy...well that's my Billy liar moment....
 
#38
I know what they should do but wont....the 15 pounds you get or I did get when I got my LSGC medal was in the old days meant to go towards you buying a house when 15 quid was a bucket load of money...bin the MQs and money saved use some of it to give the lads a mega bung at 15 for being a good boy...well that's my Billy liar moment....
Having the deposit is one thing but as about half of the applicants I have fail at the first hurdle ( credit check ) then 50% of the recipients would likely piss the money up against the wall and be no better off in the long term.

The whole ' I lived in germany and don't have a UK credit history' isn't actually usually a problem - it's more the missed payments on credit cards/payday loans/big flashy cars that does it for them.
 
#39
So an Increase on Single Service Accommodation then, as more un-attachment postings will rise.

I thought they were going to increase LSAP higher than £7500
 
#40
We decided to buy a house when we got married 40 years ago. The RN's advance of pay covered the deposit and I could Just afford the morgage. Being a submariner it was on the cards I would spend most of my time at sea. The wife would be were she wanted to be and she was happy. But my first house was £7,000, today with house prices the way they are that would be virtually impossible. So what do todays young servicemen do.
 

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