Margaret Hassan


I really hope this isn't true.

What is the point of killing a woman that had worked tirelessly for the Iraqi people most of her adult life?

I can see the twisted logic behind kidnapping and killing contractors , but why do this?

Didn't Zarqawi's mob condemn this kidnapping? Ironic I know , but I would have thought there was absolutely no value in killing this woman.

Rest in Peace Margaret
i knew it would end like this. there is no logic where these fanatics are concerned
The efforts Margaret Hassan expended on the people of Iraq meant absolutely nothing to her killers - she was a white, Christian foreigner, which was good enough to condemn her in their eyes. Negotiate with them? Impossible.
I thought they were more than willing to do a deal for her release, the ba$tards. Although it seems uncommon for hostage-takers to do a u-turn on some decisions, I'm still not convinced yet.

Its says 'almost certainly' dead; another says "It appears to be true"

I'm hope I'm not proven wrong.
They have just ran an item on ITN News. A video has been released that shows a masked woman being executed with a single shot to the head. RIP Margaret, and condolences to the husband, Tasheen. I am willing to bet that the vast majority of the Iraqi people are utterly disgusted by this atrocity.
Tragic as it is, it puts the US Marine shooting of a wounded, combatant insurgent in context. This is just murder and an utterly pointless and cruel one at that. Ba*tards.
yes, very true claymore. Unfortunately. it seems like the marine will be the only one who might be punished for his shooting. Some might say deservedly so, not me IMO.

Like said, if true, they deserve to get the treble than equivalent treatment of that insurgent.
semper said:
i knew it would end like this. there is no logic where these fanatics are concerned
With all the hostages this logic seems to apply. Each and every hostage is a "dead man walking" from the second of capture. These vile animals show absolutely no logic at all and as most of the developed world stands by the addage of "We will not deal with terrorists" it seems like each and every execution is for no purpose other than to revile themselves further against the rest of the world.

These terrorist groups have yet again taken the wrong interpretation of the teachings within the koran and continue to apply it in the vain attempt to aid their cause. Bush and Blair share no blame, the Iraqi people and the Islamic world as a whole have nothing to do with this. Those to blame are purely these despicable illogical fanatics.

Yet again my deepest sympathy for the family and lets hope that the coatlition make steps towards ridding this country of such an emabarrasment to the development of Iraq.
In view of what seems to have happened it's probably inappropriate to descend to the merely emotional about it. The logical, productive and profitable approach is surely better. Perhaps a more robust view of the likely futures of known terrorists' families could be made known, unless said terrorists were to hand themselves in for islamic justice.
Whiskybreath said:

Sometimes I think we're worse enemies to ourselves than any rolling-eyed mad bstard with an AK.
Thanks Wb (MMMMMMMMMMM Whisky breath!), and amazingly enough that seems to be a reasonably balanced and factual report from the hated Al Jazeera, wonder how that one slipped through?

looking for an emoticon to indicate irony...
Some posts and replies deleted to keep the lid on things.

I appreciate the high emotion surrounding this event, but please try and discuss this (hard as it is) in a rational manner.

On another note, posters who haven't got the courage to stir the pot under their own logins may suddenly find their access to this site removed.

PartTimePongo said:
Some posts and replies deleted to keep the lid on things.

Well we wouldn't want to upset muslims would we :roll:

It's not about upsetting Muslims.

It is about how remarks here are reported in the wider media.

They have been before, they will be again.

I'd rather not have a situation where it is reported that " A Military expert said" or as has happened in the past , the actual page or topic is highlighted. Even worse,with something as volatile as this, it's then spun 180'

Please bear in mind the wider world when you get your "special" keyboard out :D


I must say, i read this news with great sadness. This is a woman who stood against any kind of violence in Iraq, stood against the war and worked for 30 years to help the people of Iraq. Now she has been murdered, and from what i gather from the news, by a group who just wanted to sell her on to any fanatic group for the right price.

How do you defend against this? How do you combat it? The answer is somewhat lost on me. She was used as a propagander tool for a cause which is beyond the comprehension of any civilised person.

Rest in peace Margaret.

One of the problems was that the proper top fanatics, were being reported as saying "What the hell are you doing, do you know who that is, let her go now"

I don't think they gave a damn about Margaret, but they knew damn well it would cause them to lose support if she was killed.
It is the fact that we find this distressing that perhaps gives us a hint at the logic of the terrorist. They believe that we are a soft, immoral race and that as there is no depth to our character we can be scared away by the worst horrors possible. In the terrorist mind the capture and public slaughter of a soldier is good but the impact is all the greater the more innocent the victim. Does anyone doubt that the next progression is to seize and kill a western child. I wonder how many Russian citizens would be quite happy for Putin to just give up on Chetchnia after the school attack (estimated at over 800 children dead). The IRA deliberately targeted civilian pubs full of young people to gain a greater impact.

This is the logic of the terrorist and to counter it we as a Nation need to realise that p*ssing about worrying about the terrorists civil rights confuses the issue. We need to focus on dealing with an abnormal problem.

The Nation needs to steel ourselves against even worse atrocities to come.
Birdie_Numnums said:
I wonder how many Russian citizens would be quite happy for Putin to just give up on Chetchnia after the school attack (estimated at over 800 children dead).
In the same vein, I wonder how many would be quite happy for Putin to drop the remainder of the Russian nuclear arsenal on Chetchnia?

I know which one I'd vote for and it wouldn't be the giving up one.

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