Yes yes we all know its obvious, but is never said on fear of their Unions wrath. But according to ex-trade minister and ex-CBI chief, the public sector can be cut in half and provide better service, and that the nobody fears the sack even from poor work standards. Didnt Brown say something about this not long ago then quickly swept it under the rug?
BBC said:Ex-trade minister Lord Digby Jones says he was "amazed" to discover how many civil servants "deserved the sack".
He told a committee of MPs he thought the civil service could "frankly... be done with half as many" people.
The ex-CBI chief described being a junior minister as "one of the most dehumanising and depersonalising experiences" anyone could have.
Lord Jones spent a year as a minister as part of Gordon Brown's original "government of all the talents".
Lord Jones said he applauded the practice of bringing outside specialists into government by making them peers and called it "an excellent idea".
He described the civil service as "honest, stuffed full of decent people who work hard".
But he added: "Frankly the job could be done with half as many, it could be more productive, more efficient, it could deliver a lot more value for money for the taxpayer.
"I was amazed, quite frankly, at how many people deserved the sack and yet that was the one threat that they never ever worked under, because it doesn't exist."
Lord Jones' period as a minister proved colourful and at times controversial.
He told the public administration committee the job of junior minister was "one of the most dehumanising and depersonalising experiences a human being can have. The whole system is designed to take the personality, the drive and the initiative out of a junior minister".
Lord Digby Jones stepped down as a government minister in Gordon Brown's reshuffle in October, saying it was not a judgement on Mr Brown's performance.
The former CBI chief was one of the outside experts brought in by Mr Brown when he became prime minister.
His appointment was controversial at the time because he was not a member of the Labour Party.
He countered that criticism by saying that the job of promoting trade and investment "should transcend the factionalism of party politics".
Lord Jones has been involved in some controversy during his time in the job - notably when he expressed concerns about plans to tax "non-domiciled" foreigners in Britain.