many Americans lack confidence in the electoral process

#1
JIMMY CARTER and JAMES A. BAKER wrote it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/23/opinion/23carter.html?hp&oref=login

We also offer plans to reduce election fraud, and to make the administration of elections impartial and more effective.
So election fraud took place and the task is to reduce it, not exclude. Maybe fraud should be exported (to reduce it) along with democracy?

This includes Georgia, which just started demanding that voters have a state-issued photo ID, even though obtaining one can be too costly or difficult for poor Georgians. We consider Georgia's law discriminatory.
ID-card with photo is too costly for poor Americans... What can I say in this situation? ... Poor Iraqis!
 
#2
The democrat's are in full opposition to photo ID's because they would make fraud alot more difficult. If one already has a driver's license then they wouldnt require another ID. In the US today its very difficult to cash a check without 2 forms of ID, one being some form of photo ID. All states offer photo ID's through the various State Motor Vehicle office's. Personally its a simple way to solve a problem.
 
#3
KGB_resident brings up a very salient point. Let's face it, vote-rigging is not just something Septics do (as Birmingham, England voters know by now).
There MUST be something we (as voters) can do to make sure our votes are (1) given to the person/party we want and (2) our votes are not ultimately misused to approve policies we don't agree with. Am I dreaming or what?

MsG
 
#4
T6, I'm having some difficulty. Please remind me who James Baker III is and what part he played in the 2000 election. Many thanks.
 
#5
KGB_resident said:
ID-card with photo is too costly for poor Americans... What can I say in this situation? ... Poor Iraqis!
WHAT??? Costly how...the state comes to you verifies your are legit takes your pic and gives you an ID WHERE THE FCUK is the cost to the poor???????????????

What you can say to the Iraqis is " the ink wears off in a few days be thankful we didn't come to you take your picture and give you a FREE voter ID card" ;-)
 
#6
crabtastic said:
T6, I'm having some difficulty. Please remind me who James Baker III is and what part he played in the 2000 election. Many thanks.
Better ye who the hell is this Carter guy is he related to mister peanut?
 
#7
ctauch said:
Better ye who the hell is this Carter guy is he related to mister peanut?
I understand that it is a joke. However you can read in mentioned article:

Jimmy Carter was the 39th president. James A. Baker III was secretary of state in the George H. W. Bush administration.
Namely these former statesmen think that:

This includes Georgia, which just started demanding that voters have a state-issued photo ID, even though obtaining one can be too costly or difficult for poor Georgians
As mr.Carter is Georgian himself and was a governor of this state then probably knows the matter. Have I ground for doubt? No I haven't.
 
#8
I would suggest that if you cannot "afford" to have an I.D. card we can due without their input in the democratic process. I paid fees of less tha $20 for my drivers license and find it difficult to believe anyone who wants to vote could not scrape together the money.

If you consider that the "impoverished" in America have several TVs, telephone service, a healthy appetite for McDonalds and enjoy he finer things in life such as Malt Liquor, Crack cocaine and "BLING" , the money (taxpayers) is there for them, all they have to do is lay off the OE for a weekend.

Furthermore I believe you need state ID to avail yourself to the social welfare system. The impoverished Georgians managed to sort that one out Jimmy.
 
#9
expat007 said:
I would suggest that if you cannot "afford" to have an I.D. card we can due without their input in the democratic process. I paid fees of less tha $20 for my drivers license and find it difficult to believe anyone who wants to vote could not scrape together the money....
However I suppose you do need to pass a driving test first?
 
#11
expat007 said:
Or you can get a state ID card from the same state agency for the same price.
The whole debate is non-sense the voter IDs are FREE, they don't have to pay anything. In Florida you must have both you voter card and a picture ID to vote Georgia is consolidating the two and not charging the voter directly. They are charging the taxpayers, but a voter need not pay taxes 8O
 
#14
hansvonhealing said:
Has anyone considerd that many Redneck yanks are frightened to put an 'X' on a voting-slip for fear of giving their name away?.......
No such thing as a redneck yank...redneck is a southerner and by definition can not be a yankee. During the civil war rednecks were commonly refered to as rebels while they in turn refered to their northern counterparts as yankees.

Malcolm Little was black and changed his name to Malcolm X. Rednecks commonly have first names of; bo, duke, earl, daisy, mae, pearl, etc... and last names (except in Lazyanne) are ususally jones, smith, pitts
 
#16
hansvonhealing said:
Fascinating...do you, by any chance, have a favourite hog called 'boss'?
Are you by chance dentally challenged? Or are you just a pie eating widow licker?
 
#17
And I thought you rednecks were famed for your 'southern hospitality'....
Can just see you in your 'rockin chaer' on the porch of your tar-paper shack, your single tooth glinting in the moonlight as your lower jaw sways gently in the breeze.
Mind you, it can't be easy for you to sip moonshine, finger your favourite hog AND play the banjo all at the same time..........
 
#18
KGB_resident said:
JIMMY CARTER and JAMES A. BAKER wrote it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/23/opinion/23carter.html?hp&oref=login

We also offer plans to reduce election fraud, and to make the administration of elections impartial and more effective.
So election fraud took place and the task is to reduce it, not exclude. Maybe fraud should be exported (to reduce it) along with democracy?

This includes Georgia, which just started demanding that voters have a state-issued photo ID, even though obtaining one can be too costly or difficult for poor Georgians. We consider Georgia's law discriminatory.
ID-card with photo is too costly for poor Americans... What can I say in this situation? ... Poor Iraqis!
Democrats don't like the electoral process, because it is the great equaliser, and usually does not favour them.

They also like to use the 'poor can't afford it' argument, ignoring the fact that usually in the US if a legitimately poor person cant afford the price of something that is mandated, it costs them nothing.
 
#19
hackle said:
expat007 said:
I would suggest that if you cannot "afford" to have an I.D. card we can due without their input in the democratic process. I paid fees of less tha $20 for my drivers license and find it difficult to believe anyone who wants to vote could not scrape together the money....
However I suppose you do need to pass a driving test first?
I would certainly hope so, but sometimes one has to wonder ;)
 
#20
hansvonhealing said:
Has anyone considerd that many Redneck yanks are frightened to put an 'X' on a voting-slip for fear of giving their name away?.......
No, not at all
 

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