Manchester rejects conjestion charge

#5
meridian said:
I suspect they will be asked to vote again in a year or so
as in

"Keep voting , until we get it through?"

bunch of arrogant (un-)civil servants thought this joke up

much like FRES
 
#7
I bet they get it through, Cyclops Broone ai'nt going to miss out on a nice little earner
 
#8
Oh good, hopefully that will kill the idea of nationally as well. I can remember watching something on the news about this yesterday and one of its proponents was saying something like that it would "free up X hundreds million for infrastructure projects and public transport" and I'm sitting there thinking no it wont free up extra cash you berk it'll merely squeeze it out of local motorists.
 
#9
I expect they will hold another referendum in the future - like Ireland will do about the Lisbon treaty. Keep asking the question until you get the desired answer!
 
#10
box-of-frogs said:
meridian said:
I suspect they will be asked to vote again in a year or so
This isn't Ireland! :D
Quite right they simply wont bother with any of this 'voting' nonsense and push it through themselves without consultation. I mean, it's not like you can leave important decisions such as these to the public. What would happen if they voted for the wrong choice?
 
#11
The truth of it is that traffic just isn't that bad in Manchester.
Work frequently has me in Manchester from 5am to around 11.30am doing deliveries, its actually quicker for me to drive from North Manchester to Stockport through the city centre at 8am than it is to drive around the M60.
Yes there is traffic but its not a disaster, perhaps improving the M6o would have a dramatic effect but thats not what the charge was for, it would only have increased traffic on the motorway.
 
#12
Brick said:
box-of-frogs said:
meridian said:
I suspect they will be asked to vote again in a year or so
This isn't Ireland! :D
Quite right they simply wont bother with any of this 'voting' nonsense and push it through themselves without consultation. I mean, it's not like you can leave important decisions such as these to the public. What would happen if they voted for the wrong choice?
You get Nu Labour running your country.




Anyway, congestion charges, I sh*t 'em. Chuffed it hasn't gone through - more chuffed to see how thoroughly demolished it was. It needed 7 majorities out of the 10 boroughs to pass, and failed to get a single one.

Perhaps if they bothered investing in public transport in the first place we wouldn't need this. It's blatantly a money-spinner, and the chances of anything more than 10% of the cash raised going back into the promised projects is slim at best. Someone on here mentioned the other day that out of £47Bn raised from road tax last year, only £7Bn was spent on roads. Where's the rest of it gone? We can get two carriers for £4Bn, so why can't we get some more buses for £40Bn?
 
#13
Did anyone read the yes vote bribe too? They would only get the tram system if they voted yes, what does this say other than they are fishing for the taxpayers money yet again.
 
#14
"Oh most Imperious Transport Minister Mong, the proles have disobeyed and rejected your most cunning plan to extract yet more taxes from them! Our plans are in tatters!"

"FOOL! I only let them think they had won a great local democratic victory only in order to distract attention from my grand masterplan! Bwahahahahaha!"



Commuters who drive to work 'face workplace parking levy'


"Local councils will be able to impose "workplace parking levies" on spaces provided by employers under new rules proposed by ministers. The fees could reach £350 a year.

Companies are likely to bear the brunt of the costs, but the Department for Transport has left open the possibility of drivers themselves being made legally liable for the charge.

The new charging rules sparked fresh accusations yesterday that Labour was trying to squeeze more money out of motorists. The plans are also strongly opposed by businesses who fear they will hit companies particularly hard during the economic downturn.

Ministers and local officials are looking for ways to reduce the number of people driving into city-centres, to curb both congestion and pollution. They believe the workplace parking levy scheme could achieve both aims."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...rive-to-work-face-workplace-parking-levy.html
 
#15
Blogg said:
"Oh most Imperious Transport Minister Mong, the proles have disobeyed and rejected your most cunning plan to extract yet more taxes from them! Our plans are in tatters!"

"FOOL! I only let them think they had won a great local democratic victory only in order to distract attention from my grand masterplan! Bwahahahahaha!"



Commuters who drive to work 'face workplace parking levy'


"Local councils will be able to impose "workplace parking levies" on spaces provided by employers under new rules proposed by ministers. The fees could reach £350 a year.

Companies are likely to bear the brunt of the costs, but the Department for Transport has left open the possibility of drivers themselves being made legally liable for the charge.

The new charging rules sparked fresh accusations yesterday that Labour was trying to squeeze more money out of motorists. The plans are also strongly opposed by businesses who fear they will hit companies particularly hard during the economic downturn.

Ministers and local officials are looking for ways to reduce the number of people driving into city-centres, to curb both congestion and pollution. They believe the workplace parking levy scheme could achieve both aims."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...rive-to-work-face-workplace-parking-levy.html
What.

The.

FUCK?!?!

I thought that was a wah until I saw the link!

Who the HELL are these cheeky little cunts to tell us what to charge on private property?!
 
#16
Blogg said:

Commuters who drive to work 'face workplace parking levy'


"Local councils will be able to impose "workplace parking levies" on spaces provided by employers under new rules proposed by ministers. The fees could reach £350 a year.

Companies are likely to bear the brunt of the costs, but the Department for Transport has left open the possibility of drivers themselves being made legally liable for the charge.


Ah well, they can fukk right off with that one too.
In what world are people going to be prepared to pay the council to park on private employers property at work?
I would put money on the next plan to be adding a surcharge to your council tax for parking at home.....
 
#17
jagman said:
Blogg said:

Commuters who drive to work 'face workplace parking levy'


"Local councils will be able to impose "workplace parking levies" on spaces provided by employers under new rules proposed by ministers. The fees could reach £350 a year.

Companies are likely to bear the brunt of the costs, but the Department for Transport has left open the possibility of drivers themselves being made legally liable for the charge.


Ah well, they can fukk right off with that one too.
In what world are people going to be prepared to pay the council to park on private employers property at work?
I would put money on the next plan to be adding a surcharge to your council tax for parking at home.....


My sister lives in London and has to pay to park in the street outside her house - what's all that about ?
 
#18
Apart from the fact that this was never going to get voted in. The only people who thought it was a good idea was the councillors who didnt see any further than the revenue it would generate.

Also the Yes campaign said on there hand outs, let us help you if you have trouble voting which was illegal and in very small lettering at the back of the flyers it said the prices quoted were 2007 prices. What kind of a fookwit is going to vote for prices that are already out of date and by 2013 when the charges start, would probably mean having to sell ya car to pay em!!!

Dont even mention paying to park outside ya house as a joke, the fat cyclops might hear ya!
 
#19
daz527 said:
Apart from the fact that this was never going to get voted in. The only people who thought it was a good idea was the councillors who didnt see any further than the revenue it would generate.

Also the Yes campaign said on there hand outs, let us help you if you have trouble voting which was illegal and in very small lettering at the back of the flyers it said the prices quoted were 2007 prices. What kind of a fookwit is going to vote for prices that are already out of date and by 2013 when the charges start, would probably mean having to sell ya car to pay em!!!

Dont even mention paying to park outside ya house as a joke, the fat cyclops might hear ya!


No joke - she pays Camden Council for the pleasure of parking outside her house.
 

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#20
Be careful what you wish for!

Edingburgh also voted down congestion charges and since then the cooncil and gubment have taken their revenge by closing most of Edinburgh's main streets, digging them up for various reasons and blaming a new tram system. Getting round Edinburgh with ease is a thing of the past.

We are going to have to live with this until 2011/12 at least!

It is interesting to note that the current cooncil and gubment were against the trams whilst in opposition but are going along for the 'ride' now they are in. Strange that.
 

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