Malaysia Airlines MH17 plane shot down in Ukraine

jim30

LE
Looks very bad news indeed. If this was a shootdown then things are about to massively escalate in the region.
 

jim30

LE
The Ukranians are reporting it was shot down with a Buk missile - not many missiles can get up to 33000 feet.

Now it could be a massive range of things, and we should be cautious not to jump to conclusions, but given a cargo plane was lost in the same area earlier today (An32 IIRC), then things are clearly looking a bit messy out there.

This is going to end up with a lot of blame, ever greater tensions and more escalation. Not good at all.
 

Duke_of_Kaos

War Hero
Interfax Russia have said shot down and mentioned the missile type. Now who fired it? Russia, pro Russian forces or Ukraine's forces?

Several Ukrainian aircraft have been lost in the last two weeks to SAM's some have been fired from inside Russia, allegedly.


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Mad Professor

Old-Salt
What exactly would you need to shoot down a plane flying 6.25 miles up?
 
Beeb reports missiles in the area:

16:50:
The Associated Press says one of its journalists saw a similar launcher near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhe earlier on Thursday.

16:50:
An advisor to the Ukrainian interior minister, Anton Gerashenko, says the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet) when it was "hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher", in a post on his Facebook page, according to the Associated Press.
 
Interfax Russia have said shot down and mentioned the missile type. Now who fired it? Russia, pro Russian forces or Ukraine's forces?

Several Ukrainian aircraft have been lost in the last two weeks to SAM's some have been fired from inside Russia, allegedly.

I think the Interfax quote is talking about a different aircraft; they were certainly reporting one yesterday.
 
Stand by for the blame game. Or will it be the hawks within the CIA blamed?
 
The BBC article says "Anton Herashchenko, an adviser to Ukraine's interior minister, was quoted by the Associated Press as saying the plane had been hit by a missile at an altitude of 10,000m (33,000ft)."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856

But you have to read that in the context of the paragraph before:

Earlier on Thursday, Ukrainian officials accused the Russian air force of shooting down one of its ground attack jets on Wednesday.
 

Duke_of_Kaos

War Hero
I think the Interfax quote is talking about a different aircraft; they were certainly reporting one yesterday.

No, Sky not that I trust them are quoting Interfax at the moment. MH shares are going to plummet no pun intended.


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Duke_of_Kaos

War Hero
From BBC

By Sean Clare, Chris Clayton, Amber Dawson, Sarah Fowler and Jastinder Khera

16:50
The Associated Press says one of its journalists saw a similar launcher near the eastern Ukrainian town of Snizhe earlier on Thursday.

16:50
An advisor to the Ukrainian interior minister, Anton Gerashenko, says the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet) when it was "hit by a missile fired from a Buk launcher", in a post on his Facebook page, according to the Associated Press.

Russia has stated it is innocent, honest Guv.


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