Mag Chargers

#1
Could anyone give me a (sensible) reason as to why P1954 price for a Mag Charger currently stands at £17.65, more than a magazine ffs? I seem to remember they used to be £1.75(ish) Decimal point slipped perhaps? And how can this be challenged if at all.
 
#2
it can probably be challenged by you getting one off eBay for sub-£5 and thus not having to cough up £17.65.
 
#3
Nato Stock Number: 1005218987808
Description: FILLER MAGAZINE
DMC: B4
Cat of Store: 28
Inventory Classification Code: 3
Provision Management Code: D
Pre-Issue Inspection Code: 0
Lowest Echelon of Use: Z
Storage Classification: A
Hazard Category: 0
Storage Restriction: 3
Supersession Code: 0
Superseded NSN:
Superseded DMC:
Superseding NSN:
Superseding DMC:
Short Item Name: FILLER
Denomination of Quantity: EA
Accounting Classification: L
Basic Price: 17.65
Supply Price: 19.59
Target Price: 21.18
Number of Procurement Details: 1
Procurement Reference Number: 8476605
Procurement Reference Code: A


I just got the number from the SCOC website and cut and pasted it here. I am disgusted that a sh1tty little piece of plastic cost that much. The only reason i can give is that the country code (5th & 6th numbers of the NSN) is 21 as apposed to the UK number of 99 meaning it has an import price stamped onto it. Anyone shine any light on that?
 
#4
Anyone a P1954 freak out there? Is it still basic price minus 25% then add 15%, i work it out that you should have been billed around £15.88 (UK based)
 
#5
Speaking of stupid prices for minor peices of kit, i recently demanded a tin for the GTLS breakage kit. I subsequently received what was literally a large paint tin painted green.

The price?

£21.20.

No wonder the bloody Army hasnt got any money
 
#6
the_wolf said:
Speaking of stupid prices for minor peices of kit, i recently demanded a tin for the GTLS breakage kit. I subsequently received what was literally a large paint tin painted green.

The price?

£21.20.

No wonder the bloody Army hasnt got any money
Got loads of them sat on my shelves not doing anything! But yeah you are right, empty paint tins are all they are.
 
#7
I remeber that the AS90 (self propelled gun) had a sight that had a cover on it to keep all the crap out that was basically a bath plug on a piece of dog tag chain, the price of the thing? over £100!
 
#8
warrior8234mkIIIA2 said:
Nato Stock Number: 1005218987808
I just got the number from the SCOC website and cut and pasted it here. I am disgusted that a sh1tty little piece of plastic cost that much. The only reason i can give is that the country code (5th & 6th numbers of the NSN) is 21 as apposed to the UK number of 99 meaning it has an import price stamped onto it. Anyone shine any light on that?
21 is Canada. I would like to thank the MoD for helping Canada in its economic recovery.
 
#9
The RAF have 2 pieces of nice glass glass stuck in the front of their Tornados for the HUD.

Cost? £45,000....
 
#10
Canuck said:
warrior8234mkIIIA2 said:
Nato Stock Number: 1005218987808
I just got the number from the SCOC website and cut and pasted it here. I am disgusted that a sh1tty little piece of plastic cost that much. The only reason i can give is that the country code (5th & 6th numbers of the NSN) is 21 as apposed to the UK number of 99 meaning it has an import price stamped onto it. Anyone shine any light on that?
21 is Canada. I would like to thank the MoD for helping Canada in its economic recovery.
lol. how f*ckin hard can it be to make a mag charger in britain.

we could make them in china and have them imported for about 15p each.

in fact, the canadians probably do buy them in china and have them imported for 15p each, and then flog them to us for 100 times that. because everyone knows the MoD is stupid enough.
 
#12
verticalgyro said:
Ticking about it in the crew room, the Tiff told me to either do something about it, or stop moaning. He gave me some paperwork to fill in (was it GEMS? I forget) and about two years later I got some feedback that the contract had been changed.
Anyone else got any idea what the specific form is for this?
 
#13
Submit the challenge using the GEMS form and if it turns out that you save the MOD some money you might get a nice baseball hat and a mug as a thank you.

I am probably being sceptical but I would not be suprised if the price increase was something to do with the contract given to H+K to revamp the SA80.
 
#14
I dont believe it is. same old charger but for some reason its made abroad. Is this country in such a sh1t state that a decent deal with a plastics manufacturer could not be made, there fore keeping the cost down and keeping some jobs in the UK (i will get off my soap box now), as i said earlier its pretty disgusting that they cost that much.
 
#15
Get on ebay if one of your mates hasn't got one.

We've got a box of them in the armoury and I ask for one whenever we draw weapons.
Never signed for one and never asked to give one back.

Is it my fault that they're so fcuking expensive?
 
#16
Hey, that's military procurement for you. You know all those multi-billion pound aircraft carriers and nuclear subs? I reckon we could get a few off eBay for about half the price.
 
#17
therealbigdizzle said:
The RAF have 2 pieces of nice glass glass stuck in the front of their Tornados for the HUD.

Cost? £45,000....
A little closed nut used on the Tornado to unlock the HDERU on the Tornado belly pylons...Made by Messerchmidt cost around £3.50...Made by BAe Systems...£25.00 odd!!
The only difference is the German one was painted red.
When my Sgt quereied the price he was told via OC Supply to wind his neck in!
 
#18
When doing my BAT course at Wallop, the only thing we ever knew about the Lynx was that the main rotor head was one piece forged titanium and cost fifty grand. We never worked on a Lynx, we very rarely saw a Lynx but the one thing we could be certain of, was that the head cost fifty grand. Unfortunately I was posted to an all Gazelle squadron so this important information was all but forgotten.

UNTIL

When a Lynx decided to become a rotary tree cutter after piling in, it sat in 71's hangar for ages. Although it looked quite cute being the only Lynx in the fleet with a snub nose, it just seemed to get in the way. As a stinking civvy and having a working knowledge of German (and Germans), it was decided that various bits from the Lynx (including the main rotor head) and other 'valuable stuff' were to be taken down a scrappies in Herford and yours truly and a mate would be doing the bartering.

All over the workshop, the frantic tapping of calculators was heard as each and every man (and his dog) tried to work out the value of the head in marks using the exchange rate of the day. This was closely followed by an outbreak of Fagin-esque hand rubbing as each and every man (and his dog) tried to work out their share and how they would spend it.

As the greed intensified it was suddenly decided that yours truly and a mate as stinking civvies, could not really be trusted to deliver such a valuable cargo and we were instantly dismissed from our positions as head barterers. This was taken on by someone who was deemed totally trustworthy though actually it simply meant they were further up the foodchain.

And what did they get for the one piece forged titanium main rotor head? Fcuk all! The scrappy didn't want it. I seem to remember in the end it simply got chucked.
 

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