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M16 "Test to Destruction"

#1
The following link makes interesting reading.. Basically, US Special Forces types were complaining that their M16s and M4s were exploding, so the US Army decided to do a bit of testing. Namely, keep firing on full auto, and see how long it lasts.

Turns out you can reliably break an M16 in about three minutes on automatic; a couple of the attached ammo incident reports at the end suggest it can be done in rather less......

Updated link to the report
 

Cutaway

LE
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#2
Wonder how long the SA80 would take ?

A lot longer I imagine, (including stoppages that is)
But perhaps I'm being unkind to the 'greatest weapon ever to leave Enfield'

:lol:
 
#3
Three minutes is a fairly long time on continuous full auto, especially for a light barrelled rifle. The heat generated in that time alone could possibly cause ammunition to cook off.

But is this news really new? Isn't this part of the reason they came out with the three round burst mode for the M16?
I think it's also part of the reason the CF version has a heavier barrel than a standard M16.
 

Cutaway

LE
Kit Reviewer
#4
It may well have been part of the reason RC, also the low hit probability on full auto - the two main downsides of spray & pray.
But both 'problems' are easily sorted by correct trg of disciplined troops.

Oh bugger ! I forgot we're talking about septics......
 
#5
Cutaway said:
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But both 'problems' are easily sorted by correct trg of disciplined troops.

Oh bugger ! I forgot we're talking about septics......
So true.

Whatever happened to "musketry" and "marksmanship"?
 
#6
Cutaway said:
It may well have been part of the reason RC, also the low hit probability on full auto - the two main downsides of spray & pray.
But both 'problems' are easily sorted by correct trg of disciplined troops.


Oh bugger ! I forgot we're talking about septics......
Starfish and yanks in the same sentence, such a good start to any morning debate.
 
#9
Cutaway said:
But both 'problems' are easily sorted by correct trg of disciplined troops..
Which is why it's so amusing that all of the incident reps stapled to the back of the report are from US Army Special Forces.... (e.g. "10th SFG")

...that, and they're all claiming "honest, we'd only run a magazine or two through the weapon before it blew up" in their statements..... :twisted:
 

Cutaway

LE
Kit Reviewer
#10
Gravelbelly said:
Cutaway said:
But both 'problems' are easily sorted by correct trg of disciplined troops..
Which is why it's so amusing that all of the incident reps stapled to the back of the report are from US Army Special Forces.... (e.g. "10th SFG")

...that, and they're all claiming "honest, we'd only run a magazine or two through the weapon before it blew up" in their statements..... :twisted:

Cutaway said:
Oh bugger ! I forgot we're talking about septics......
:wink:
 

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