Lying bastards making it worse for the lot...

#3
And this from the Spectator, not exactly renowned for its tree-hugging views 8O

If the spams think that they can carry on like this they are sadly mistaken. You would have thought that they might have learned something after the 'Nam.

This is likely to vlow up in everyone's faces, including ours. :evil:
 
#4
Damn good article, even though it's from the Spunktator. This of

The dead numbered some eight or ten, about half of whom may have been insurgents, but also included the lady from the drugs factory, a child and an elderly Iranian pilgrim who had come to pray at the historic shrine. The splendid gold-plated doors of the sanctuary where the 10th and 11th Shia Imams lie buried were pierced by half a dozen bullets. One round passed straight through the inner enclosure which contains the tombs of the two Islamic saints and punctured the words ‘Prophet Mohammed’ in an ornate inscription quoting the Koran. One worshipper was hit in the leg. The American commander, Col. Ryan Gonsalves, declared that his men’s fire had been ‘aimed’.
is frightening. I hope Col. Speedy Gonzales is wrong, because it would not be good news if they were aiming at the splendid gold-plated doors of the sanctuary where etc etc etc. Does anyone else think that in the end the Brits are going to get dicked for a sector up north, once the yanks start to get desperate?
 
#7
Jake01 said:
http://www.hackworth.com/index.html

The American way of doing things ... justified or not, what do you think?
I think Hackworth comes across as a real voice of a real soldier. He obviously doesn't think Iraq was a good idea, and also thinks the spam squaddies are being shafted by the Whitehouse, but stops short saying that so bluntly because he wants to support the troops.
 
#8
Jake01 said:
http://www.hackworth.com/index.html

The American way of doing things ... justified or not, what do you think?
Just like a journalist not to do any research......

Col Hackworth does not advocate the 'American' way of doing things, he advocates the Col Hackworth way of doing things. IMO this would be a vast improvement on the situation.

Col Hackworth joined the Army at 15, served in Korea and completed 2 tours of Vietnam. A Battlefield commission and numerous purple hearts later the US administration tried to carpet him for speaking out about the way they were running the war in Vietnam.

He left the Army in disgust and moved to Australia where he is still vocal about matters that involve the US military.

You could do worse than listen to this man!
 
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Jake01

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#10
Soldier_Why said:
Jake01 said:
http://www.hackworth.com/index.html

The American way of doing things ... justified or not, what do you think?
Just like a journalist not to do any research......

Col Hackworth does not advocate the 'American' way of doing things, he advocates the Col Hackworth way of doing things. IMO this would be a vast improvement on the situation.

Col Hackworth joined the Army at 15, served in Korea and completed 2 tours of Vietnam. A Battlefield commission and numerous purple hearts later the US administration tried to carpet him for speaking out about the way they were running the war in Vietnam.

He left the Army in disgust and moved to Australia where he is still vocal about matters that involve the US military.

You could do worse than listen to this man!
My reference to 'the American way of doing things' related to the style and content of the site, particularly much of the content of the guest book.

As for research, agreed, none done, apart from looking at the site (briefly) ... I wanted to pose the question to tie up with an article I had read elswhere .....
 
#13
Jake01 said:
Cabbaged said:
You should hand in your press pass in shame. :oops:
:lol: Yeah, right ..............
FFS, you're sitting on the internet, the information SUPER highway and you can't even be arrsed looking for one iota of information before making a sweeping statement. Who do you work for the fcuking Sunday Sport??

Incidentally if you are at all interested in what Col Hackworth has to say I think the following article has a lot of comparisons to current UK training policy.

http://www.hackworth.com/article04032002c.html
 
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Jake01

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#14
Cabbaged - I posed a question, I did'nt make a statement, I had read an article, looked at a website - and asked the views of others....

Of course, if this was work related, then my methods and resources would be entirely different ... btw, thanks for the link.
 
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Jake01

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#17
...the US administration tried to carpet him for speaking out about the way they were running the war in Vietnam.
I believe while he was serving in Vietnam a TV crew asked him what the next step should be. He replied "We should should declare it a victory and get the hell out." (I may well have paraphrased that quote).
 

Mr Happy

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#18
At the start of Vietnam the uncle of a friend of a friend was the highest ranking officer in the US Army to resign from JFK's government, I believe a Brigadier or equiv. (1*?) in protest over Vietnam.

His nephew also did the same (as a Captain in the army) but was drafted six months later into the navy as an NCO - and then sent to Vietnam!

That'll teach him to pop his head above the paraphet.
 

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