Lunch at the TAC

#1
Here's one that's been bugging me for oh so many years:

I turn in for a training day at my own TAC. I am paid one RPOD. I am not entitled to be fed because if I am training at my own TAC 'I can go home to eat lunch'. I try to claim a second RPOD to cover the 60 miles it would take me to go home and come back again and - strange to relate - I can't do that either.

I know that if I am training more than 5 miles from the TAC I can be fed and I have heard illicit rumours of falsified instructions to this effect. We also frequently lay on pie and chips, paid for out of GPF, for lads training at the TAC.

Can anyone give me a good reason for this state of affairs to continue, other than it saving the bean counters 36p a man, or however much they allocate for lunch?

Alternatively, what is your favourite pay/allowance regulation that makes you feel like a second class citizen?
 
#2
Does your civvy employer pay for your lunch? Mine doesn't and I don't feel like a second class citizen.

Stop complaining.
 
#5
Take something with you and stop bloody complaining, you wonder why SPSI/PSI etc get pi***d off. I cant claim coming to work and often miss meals at the Mess I live in! Get a life!
 
#6
Blyth_spirit said:
Here's one that's been bugging me for oh so many years:

I turn in for a training day at my own TAC. I am paid one RPOD. I am not entitled to be fed because if I am training at my own TAC 'I can go home to eat lunch'. I try to claim a second RPOD to cover the 60 miles it would take me to go home and come back again and - strange to relate - I can't do that either.

I know that if I am training more than 5 miles from the TAC I can be fed and I have heard illicit rumours of falsified instructions to this effect. We also frequently lay on pie and chips, paid for out of GPF, for lads training at the TAC.

Can anyone give me a good reason for this state of affairs to continue, other than it saving the bean counters 36p a man, or however much they allocate for lunch?

Alternatively, what is your favourite pay/allowance regulation that makes you feel like a second class citizen?
If you're fed at your civilian employment, then it classes as a benefit, on which you can be taxed. The five mile rule comes from within that I suspect, as that's the guidelines from HMRC and the PAYE people.

The issue tends to crop up where people think they're entitled to be fed at the public expense, and we're not, unless we're being sent somewhere and have no choice in the matter.
 
#8
In order to be fed you have to be paying 'food' at £3something per 24hrs. Then they would be able to produce a ration roll with your name on it. But they will only be able to claim 60p per meal (very very rough figures, and don't hold me to them). Therefore unless you want 60p worth of lunch having paid £3+ I would keep quiet. I'm sure there are also issues of who can actually cook the food, has anyone done their food handling course? Unless they have, no one will be able to cook just incase you get food poisoninig - welcome to the nanny state etc.

If on the otherhand you are in 'field conditions' then 'Rations' are available, but you clearly arn't.

How about a sandwich?
 
#9
Mr_Relaxed said:
If you're fed at your civilian employment, then it classes as a benefit, on which you can be taxed.
Unless the free meal is available to all employees in which case it is not. There are employers who have discovered that if you give folks a lunch hour and lay on a free meal in a canteen they will not take the whole hour. The difference makes it worth the cost of the meal to them. There are other reasons such as avoiding clothing changes, reducing security concerns, and reducing lunchtime traffic.
 
#10
GoodIdeaAtTheTime said:
Mr_Relaxed said:
If you're fed at your civilian employment, then it classes as a benefit, on which you can be taxed.
Unless the free meal is available to all employees in which case it is not. There are employers who have discovered that if you give folks a lunch hour and lay on a free meal in a canteen they will not take the whole hour. The difference makes it worth the cost of the meal to them. There are other reasons such as avoiding clothing changes, reducing security concerns, and reducing lunchtime traffic.
Yes, that was considered at my place, but the guys on the shop floor would eat the scoff and then spend the next 55 minutes complaining what b*stards the Management are! :D
 
#11
Why don't we get expenses for wear and tear of footware to and from the TAC? Afterall, once at the TAC, we can change into Boots but not wear them in transit.
 
#13
tooth said:
Why don't we get expenses for wear and tear of footware to and from the TAC? Afterall, once at the TAC, we can change into Boots but not wear them in transit.
I think you should consider claiming for wear and tear on your lungs as well. After all, you have to breath whilst marching up and down dont you
 

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#14
tooth said:
Why don't we get expenses for wear and tear of footware to and from the TAC? Afterall, once at the TAC, we can change into Boots but not wear them in transit.
Please put me out of my misery and tell me you are having a laugh. If you're not, put yourself out of OUR misery.
 
#15
Of course I'm taking the piss. Sounds like some sort of northern thing, asking for lunch. Just walk around the corner and spend some of the dosh HMG has just paid you.
 
#16
FAS, Mobilisations, introduction of MATT's - sod that lets moan about not getting paid for lunch at a "training day" at the TAC:

There are "Training Days" and *cough* "training days". I always find that "Training days" have some sort of food provided.

FFS your getting 60miles RPOD - justify how every penny of that is being used for fueling and maintaining your vehicle
 
#17
Now that we have determined that Tooth is a chopper, surely food for TAC based weekends would be good for retention?

Lets face it, some of the most poorly attended, bone jobs have to be done (vehicle maintenance, etc), so by providing food, you'd get more people in.

I've never, not come in because of food not being there, but I have had a good winge about it (in true squaddie fashion).
 
#18
And you're probably the sort of person to find something to winge about if you spent your annual camp at eurodisney with free booze and loads of naked bisexual swedish nyphomaniacs to attend to your every desire.
 
#19
StabTiffy,

retention by providing meals??

why not recruit down the sally army hostel and the subways, mmmm, the promise of free meals.

why not go the whole hog and provide B and B on a wednesday morning so more would attend the Bar and Messes, and why not have a hand washing and car valetting service on a weekend, so you can park your car up, go and do a bit of training and come back to a gleaming car.

i can see retention and recruitment increasing already.
 
#20
It seems like duty of care to me.

They want us there to do something, and it goes past a meal time then either provide the meal or give us the time to get changed (for security) and go out and find something and eat, then get changed again back into green.

As someone said 'does your employer give you lunch???'
No, not usually, by they do give us a lunch hour, which on the days at the TAC that I have been to, doesnt seem to happen. Maybe cos the grown up's are frightend that the toms will get bored and fekked off with all the bone jobs and 'forget' to come back after lunch? :lol:
 

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