LSL / Veng(LC) 2011 Posting Plot Freeze


Apparently the LSL / Veng(LC) 2011 posting plot has been frozen due to an emerging DM(A) policy, anyone know what that emerging policy is?

If its to stop moving people around to save money then cool!! however if its to stop moving people around because we are going to make them redundant then not so cool??


I for one am on that plot, I have been told to wait out!! That does not help really as I have a runout date for next year or I hope a new post!!!! I am taking the line that I am going to be let go therefore have done all my resettlement and have all paperwork for pension etc submitted. I would advise people in that situation to get on the resettlement road.
With immediate effect the 2011 Posting Plot is frozen (some AOs have already been issued and they remain extant). In light of the emerging DM (A) policy the intent is to now go through the Posting Plot and determine which moves are still feasibly possible based on the remaining service of individuals. We will be contacting you and your employer in the near future to discuss the options that are available. Inevitably there will be some posts that will be gapped based on the Army Manning Priorities (AMP); however, this may take some time to confirm.

If you are involved in the 2011 Posting Plot you will now have obvious concerns regarding your future career and personal circumstances; I will endeavour to confirm exact details as soon as possible.

Although I would not want to deter any of you from contacting the APC and I welcome all phone calls, I would ask that you to be patient and give the team a chance to try and work out the best way forward.

Details of Cohort 3 will be distributed in the near future by a newsletter.
Yeh I got some very vague answers myself along the lines that the posting plot freeze is to sort out individuals with insufficient residual service, so if I was a betting man they are going to start looking into whether or not they should grant new or extension to existing Veng(LC) contracts before raising assignment orders.

Its a fair shout, but rather than get rid of experienced soldiers (40 - 50 bracket) maybe they should focus on some senior (past their sell by date) officers, oh I forgot they are the ones signing off the policy!!!

My Veng(LC) first term ends 2014 so I may be moved in 2011 or they may decide not to move me to save money as wherever I go I will be in my last three years unless by some miraculous turn of fate the grant me another Veng(LC) contract?!?!??!
JA, I have read into it that those who have runout dates next year will be on their way out, me included, I would love to have the extra 3yrs to take me to 55 though. I am still on LSL and not Veng (L) though. Maybe though they may look at not bringing anymore onto the list and just keep those in post and move others to cover the losses expected!! But hey we know they never think like this.
I hear details were released today for 12 lucky souls.
That's me Fecked then!! I heard nothing. ha ha ha
I think you find that they may have been given their 12 months notice! If you get a phone call from the 'Man on the Desk' and it's bad news, then that's when your 12 months will commence, your EOT date is not your last day. DM (A) are trying to reduce the notice period down to 6 months, but our man in Glasgow has fought that stupid idea.
Still awaiting the outcome of this and have been told that it will be well into the new year! Although they will have to give you 12 months notice to leave if you are one of the unlucky ones.
Still awaiting the outcome of this and have been told that it will be well into the new year! Although they will have to give you 12 months notice to leave if you are one of the unlucky ones.
It could be as late as 'May', that would tie in with the Redundancy/Pension announcement due in April and the what the Army will be like in July!
VTT, Aye, I recieved a discharge letter the other day as my Runout date is in 2011 but OC rang Glasgow as i had all my dates planned and handed in to them, he told her tell him to get Fecked until I tell him, he is going nowhere! Que big laughs as they rubbed the board with all my dates off, I was due to start termintion leave etc on 30th Mar!!!!
I along with the other 33 via email. The only advice I can give out, is to inform your COC, if you haven't done so by now. Send a reply to the email & just say 'have recieved', don't get into a bun fight/long letter with the desk. Let the COC deal with this. Good luck lads.


No comments (yet) slagging off LSL & VEng or the thought that they exist at all? Normally takes about 2 posts before NRPS or CS get a slagging!
So let me get this one hand you can be awarded an MSM and in the other 12 months notice to quit! WTF is going on? Glad I'm going TBH the rot has really set in.

Funny you should mention that, I know someone who that has happened too? Just remember the MoD is an 'Equal Opportunity Employer'
To: All the Commanding Officers/Line Manager of E2 VENG LC/LSL personnel.

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is an important e-mail.

1. I have not established direct communications with the majority of you before now, but I want you to be aware of a statement that I am placing on the LSL web-page on the MS web site on Wednesday 26th January 2011. It is the formal announcement of a process that HQ LF and the APC are embarking on to rationalise and reduce the E2 VENG LC/LSL. The statement is as follows:

"To reduce the E2 VENG LC/LSL strength to liability and rationalise the remaining posts, DM(A) has invited LF Org to review the extant E2 VENG LC/LSL liability, in order to confirm the suitability of a given post for these TACOS and its priority against Army Manning Priorities (AMP) 10. Employers will be consulted in this process.

It is intended that the review will provide a baseline for an E2 VENG LC/LSL Manning Plan and Gapping Strategy (MP&GS) which will subsequently be produced by MS Sldrs in the APC. In the interim, and to provide time for the review of liability and the MP&GS to be completed, DM(A) further directed that 38 E2 VENG LC/LSL individuals who are approaching their last year of service, be given a minimum of 12 months notice and should be awarded short periods of continuance commensurate with their current EED on this basis. These 38 individuals have been warned. This is a prudent planning measure and it is expected that a proportion of this cohort will be able to remain should they so wish. A decision as to their longer term future, and the future of all E2 VENG LC/LSL personnel, including future conversions to VENG LC or further extensions under LSL TACOS, will follow in the wake of the E2 VENG LC/LSL MP&GS. In the meantime, the 2011 E2 VENG LC/LSL posting plot has been frozen and posts becoming vacant through retirement may be gapped.

This is unsettling for all members of the E2 VENG LC/LSL. It is hoped that the review of liability will be complete by early February, allowing the development of the MP&GS by end of March - providing much needed clarity on the way ahead for those on the E2 LSL/VEng LC."

2. I will keep in touch with you all by this means when there is something of importance to pass on. Individuals on the E2 VENG LC/LSL, and you of course, can continue to deal direct with the E2 VENG LC/LSL desks here in the APC in the usual way. The points of contact are: Maj Andy Simpson SO2 E2 /LSL on 94561 3111, AO E2/LSL Recruiting Karen Hampton on 94561 3109, AO E2/LSL General List Lynette Dalton on 94561 3114 and Cathie Hendry AA E2/LSL on 94561 3113. Please do consult them when required and indeed myself should you so wish.

3. APC SO1 DMS - please forward this e-mail to all MS Reps.

Bruce Russell

Col MS Soldiers
How would the National News react to 38 Senior Warrant Officers being sacked by e-mail?. No Interview, told to tell your own boss that you have 12 months notice ( 12th of January 12 ) having given up to 30 years service to Queen and Country.

It would make a gleeming story for any Jounalist.
It would be shocking, especially about one of the '38' who was in Afgahn at the time, when he recieved the news! Such a clever bunch working on the LSL desk, really think things through, they do and I have so much confidence in them!
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