PTP Why did you close the other thread on this subject? I fully understand that there can be no public discussion of the impending CMs but surely such discussions would only be prejudicial if they concern the actual allegation rather than the more general discussion that was taking place there of political correctness and the apparent desire to prosecute any officer, for any offence, just to puts someone in court. Surely such discussions are highly necessary? I watched the Cenotaph yesterday and was struck by how utterly cut off we are from our politicians. Not one of them laying a wreath yesterday has the slightest idea of what they are asking of us but are seemingly nonetheless happy to join in the mud slinging at the slightest opportunity. Louise Mendonca and the Telegraph have started a serious debate that MUST be held both in public and in private. The logic behind the prosecution goes to the heart of our military system - the extent of responsibility up and down the chain of command, the pact of trust between officers and soldier, between the military and the public, between the military and the politicians. When is mission command a doctrine that can be ignored by the chain of command? Are outstanding leaders responsible for every single act of every single soldier under their command at all times? In the absence of an Army Federation and at a time when even CGS (the real one) can't speak to the media without a minder, who else is to speak up for us on such serious issues? You may have already noticed that ARRSE is beginning to fulfil a role here with the media and politicians (admittedly perhaps only a few of the latter) following our more serious discussions. Please don't cut all such discussions as an SOP without considering what is really damaging and what is important to all of us.