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Good news indeed.

The French are trying to stop D-Day veterans from visiting the beaches without a 'special' ID card, though no ID card was needed by these fine men when they liberated France in '44. Our government are being weak as usual and negotiating. What nonsense - sink the French fleet! It's the only thing these these damn Frogs understand.
Seem to remember we sunk the frog fleet during the war! :lol:

Good news on the lottery grant. Token effort IMHO. Compare the amount previous mentioned disabled lesbo treehuggers have recieved.

Will this open the Armed Forces in general, to get a lottery grant?
I know the RBL do tours called Remembrance Travel for vets & familes. I met up with some of them at a battlefield from WW2 and listening to them old guys was better than any tour guide.

Plus, in true old sqaddie fashion we drank ourselves stupid on an evening, however my war stories paled slightly to theirs!
Exclusive By Rupert Hamer

BRITISH war veterans are to be banned from this year's Normandy D-Day landings 60th anniversary tribute - because the French claim they could damage the beaches.

Elderly ex-soldiers have been told numbers are going to be limited because of "health and safety issues", including possible harm to the environment and problems with disabled access and public toilets. The snub has enraged up to 3,000 veterans preparing to make the emotional trip to the beaches where they fought the Germans to help liberate France in 1944.

Tory home security spokesman Patrick Mercer, a former army colonel, said: "It's a good job that the French didn't restrict which beaches our men could go on in 1944 because if they had then the French would still be under Nazi rule." Mr Mercer, whose father fought in World War II, added: "If our boys had been worried about such things as health and safety during D-Day, then France would never have been liberated. Some recognition of this from the French would be nice."

Veterans have been further angered by the insistence that they are only allowed access to the beaches if they wear security passes and photo ID cards. Survivors without a badge will be denied entry to events, the beaches they liberated and even a British march-past due to be attended by the Queen.

Now officials from the Ministry of Defence have begun their own war of words in a desperate attempt to get the French to change their minds.

Last night a senior MoD insider said: "The French have gone too far and this will be made clear to them. Many veterans are becoming distressed. To be treated like this on the very beaches they liberated is insulting."

Veterans from across Britain have spent months preparing for the emotional pilgrimage to the beaches. Because of their age, for many the trip to Northern France could be the last time they stand on the former battlefields to remember fallen comrades.

They will find out this week how the French have limited numbers and how many places are available.

The event is also dogged by fears of a possible terrorist strike, as the commemorations will be attended by Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

The source said: "The French are asking for frail and elderly veterans to sort out individual security passes for themselves - that is enough to put off old soldiers in their droves.

"And the number allowed at some events and areas of the beaches is going to be restricted for what the French describe as health and safety reasons.

"The feeling in the MoD is that what is being asked of these men by the French is too much and they should be shown a great deal more respect."

Last night an MoD spokesman said there would be discussions with the French to address the issue of security passes and other restrictions. The talks will will take place in the city of Caen - which was bombed flat by the British as they advanced in 1944.

Joe Sibun, 84, who landed on Gold Beach in Normandy on D-Day, said: "I think it is just a case of somebody sitting in an office in France who has decided to be bloody awkward.

"I do not see any good reason for this kind of red tape."
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It's about time the Veterans got some funding, a small thank you. It's a shame the MoD can't stump up the cash.

Atleast now some can go and pay their respects to their fallen mates, for what some this may be their last chance to go. My old man could certainly not make it now.

Time waits for no man!
Excellent news about the grant - i remember having to host a couple of Chelsea Pensioners once, the stories these guys told were amazing. Also had the same with my grandads and great uncle's who would sit and talk for hours about wartime exploits. 10 million is small change, compared to what it will mean to the veterans.

How about we introduce an ID card that the french have to show on arrival in the UK at all points of entry, to visit anywhere in Britain. With the only issue office in, say, Haverfordwest? Theres really not much to like about the french is there :?:
I hear that the MoD are already offering free return trips to visit the site of previous operations in such places as Shaibah Airfield, Ramallah and Basra. Any takers? :lol:
Regarding the French being a pain,

I think the deep down problem is that the French nation has an issue with how easily the country let the Germans in during WW2. The coutry in pre 1940 was in a mess and most French welcomed the idea of a stable and uncorrupt government. Some footage of French welcoming German troops was suppressed by the Vichy Government during WW2 and to this day is kept quiet about in France.

The problem is that our proud froggy cousins cant face up to this and would rather blame a bunch of old veterans or anybody else rather than look in the mirror.
Good point that CC, kind of puts 10 million into perspective. I think the Opera House got about 33 Mil and the Dome has cost close to a billion to date i think. And the men and women who gave us our freedom and ensured we dont now goose step to work, only get 10. :(
The event is also dogged by fears of a possible terrorist strike, as the commemorations will be attended by Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.
If this is one of the reasons that the French are being typically French, why not just say, "Sorry guys, but you can't come." Fine, some senior politicians might stamp their feet and throw their toys out of the pram, but at least the event might then become a soft target, requiring less security, as opposed to a "Blair-seeking missile" target.
The event is also dogged by fears of a possible terrorist strike, as the commemorations will be attended by Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder

Yeah, - but if they only got those 3 would anyone be really upset or miss them?!!! :twisted:

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