Lost medals, Perth, ANZAC Day

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Are you going to treat the owner to one of your little Afghanistan/Iraq lectures if he gets in touch?
 
#5
Yes, on originals. Lots of Aussies wear replicas to save the originals for display, replicas don't have the owners details engraved on them.
 
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wedge35 said:
Are you going to treat the owner to one of your little Afghanistan/Iraq lectures if he gets in touch?
No. I'm going to treat him or her as an Australian soldier obeying orders and proud to shake hands if offered the chance.

My contempt for the crass stupidity of these pointless wars is reserved for the politicians who allowed us to become involved in them.
 
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littlejim said:
Three medals for service in Iraq in 2003 were found at the Shed in Northbridge after the ANZAC celebrations. Will be happy to return them on proof of ownership.
you could send an email to Central Army Records Office and if the owner of the medals is still serving, they would be able to contact that person and have them contact you for return of the medals, if he/she is not serving then perhaps Dept of Vet Affairs will have details of the owner and can put the owner in touch with you, failing that. look a the Lost Medals Australia site, a serving officer is making a hobby of finding the owners of lost medals, and finding medals that have been lost, all are worth a try, and if you dont want to go to all that trouble, try the local headquarters of the Army in Perth, I am sure they will be able to help you find the owner. And I have not heard of veterans wearing the repro medals to Anzac Day parades, they are usually wannabes/walts who wear other than the genuine article, just in case a walt hunter trys to check them at the Gunfire Breakfast to see if they are the real thing, especially these days when there are so many of them around buying repro medals to big note themselves.
 
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I know a few blokes that buy repros and keep their originals at home. One of them showed me his repro from Christies and his original ADM side by side, remarking how the quality of the repro was so much better.
 
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Benjamin1876 said:
And I have not heard of veterans wearing the repro medals to Anzac Day parades, they are usually wannabes/walts who wear other than the genuine article, just in case a walt hunter trys to check them at the Gunfire Breakfast to see if they are the real thing, especially these days when there are so many of them around buying repro medals to big note themselves.
Funnily enough Ben, all of the people I know who wear replicas are Afghanistan and/or Iraq veterans. I'm sure they wiould appreciate the implication that they are walts. Come to Darwin next year and meet them. :D
 
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Benjamin1876 said:
And I have not heard of veterans wearing the repro medals to Anzac Day parades, they are usually wannabes/walts who wear other than the genuine article
As a Brit, I wear replica Medals, thank god I do, I had them nicked from a Mess in Aldershot after a Remembrance Parade a couple of years ago.

Benjamin, its appears that you know bugger all.
 

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RoyogtheRovers said:
Benjamin1876 said:
And I have not heard of veterans wearing the repro medals to Anzac Day parades, they are usually wannabes/walts who wear other than the genuine article
As a Brit, I wear replica Medals, thank god I do, I had them nicked from a Mess in Aldershot after a Remembrance Parade a couple of years ago.

Benjamin, its appears that you know bugger all.
Well I don't know him. I do however have a set replica medals. I mount medals and wanted a sample group swing mounted. I sometimes use them if I'm feeling paranoid about the chances of having the originals nicked. I've also mounted quite a few replica medals for people who want to preserve the originals in a pristine condition. DSOs, OBE/MBEs, MCs, RRCs spring to mind as the most frequent in that category.
 
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What I said about repro medals, and I thought I made it clear, is that I dont know any veterans who wear repro medals, and commented that in these days there are so many wannabes/walts who wear repro medals, if that is not clear, check the ANZMI site, there you will find page after page, dozens of them, wannabes/walts who have been wearing repro medals till they got caught, all had what they thought were real good excuses for wearing them, all cried they were being persecuted. So I wear my 9 medals, the ones issued to me, at the Kapyong Day commemoration at the local RSL, again at the Dawn Service on ANZAC Day,at Remembrance Day services, at the odd funeral, sadly, of old Army mates, and wear the miniatures when I put on my old Mess Dress with my little R symbol on the jacket, when I attend the odd Army Dinner, other than that, I dont own repro medals, and would not wear them anyway, so why buy them. And of course I cant go to Darwin to see the blokes who come back from the sandpit, and nor did I intend any insult to them, but I must note I met three Aust and 1 NZ veteran at the recent Dawn Service, and we were talking about medals and the cost of court mounting, and they made no mention of the medals they were wearing being repro, and I assume they are like me, wear the real thing. But of course I will say, I am retired, dont inow what serving soldiers do, if they want to wear repro medals, so what.
 
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Benjamin1876 said:
What I said about repro medals, and I thought I made it clear, is that I dont know any veterans who wear repro medals, and commented that in these days there are so many wannabes/walts who wear repro medals,
what you actually said was:

And I have not heard of veterans wearing the repro medals to Anzac Day parades, they are usually wannabes/walts who wear other than the genuine article
which is totally different to:

I dont know any veterans who wear repro medals, and commented that in these days there are so many wannabes/walts who wear repro medals
Bit of a difference in meaning between the two versions, can you see why it was met with the posts that followed?
 
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littlejim said:
Three medals for service in Iraq in 2003 were found at the Shed in Northbridge after the ANZAC celebrations. Will be happy to return them on proof of ownership.
I made an assumption that when littlejim said that he will be happy to return the medals on proof of ownership, that the medals are engraved with army number, name and initials, hence my suggestion about contact with CARO, DVA etc, etc.

I will also accept, since I have been retired now since 1993,and have no knowledge of what younger soldiers, from later actions than those I was involved in, wear repro medals on those occasions when they need or want to wear medals instead of their issued medals, and I cant argue with those who say that is OK, except to repeat what I said, irrespective of my wording, (as one pedantic person has pointed out) I do not know, and have never met, any veteran who says they wear repro medals in place of their issued medals, so say what you wish, I dont subscribe to the practice, I will continue to wear my issued medals, and I make sure they are fixed firmly to my clothing, that the pins are in good order. Even though accepting that soldiers do wear repro medals now. I do find it difficult to believe that all those who have served since I retired in 1993, and there must be thousand of medals issued since that time to thousands of Australian defence personnel, all wear repro medals - can anybody know that to be so, or just a guess based on their own personal preference and perhaps some others they know personally who do so.
 
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Benjamin1876 said:
... but I must note I met three Aust and 1 NZ veteran at the recent Dawn Service, and we were talking about medals and the cost of court mounting, and they made no mention of the medals they were wearing being repro, ...
Mate,
Original medals are mounted at Commonwealth expense for serving soldiers. If the veterans were still serving and commenting on the cost of court mounting, they are either replica medals or the soldiers are not aware of the free court mounting service.

I appreciate you didn't intend to question the integrity of those wearing replica medals.

My experience of people wearing replicas is based on 3 years at 2 Cav and various courses in Aus, I'd say around 70% of serving soldiers in Darwin wear replicas. No fixed stats, entirely based on chats in the mess and at parades.

Oh, and my preference is for originals too.
 
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Benjamin1876 said:
have no knowledge of what younger soldiers, from later actions than those I was involved in, wear repro medals on those occasions when they need or want to wear medals instead of their issued medals, and I cant argue with those who say that is OK, except to repeat what I said, irrespective of my wording, (as one pedantic person has pointed out) I do not know, and have never met, any veteran who says they wear repro medals in place of their issued medals.
It may seem pedantic to you, however your initial wording indicated that no veterans would wear replica medals and the only people that would are walts and wannabies.

I served 23 years, retired as a WO1 and I have a fairly impressive rack of medals which I would be gutted to have stolen and if I had been wearing them on the remembrance day I posted about earlier I would be without those medals now, thankfully a thief made off with a pretty worthless (in terms of trying to flog them) set of replica gongs. Im sure that if the medals that have been found in the shed in Northbridge are originals then the owner will be distraught, if they are replicas, then they are easily replaced.
 
#19
When the guys from my unit found I was wearing my original Brit gongs on parade, they were really surprised and suggested I buy a set of replicas from Christies (who can supply replica Brit gongs). Not cheap though and look a little naff!
 
#20
With the amount of piss that gets sunk on ANZAC Day, it makes sense to leave your originals safely at home so it's only your repros that end up lost in Jacksons...
 
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