Lords block bid to protect Armed Forces personnel from historic war crimes prosecutions

Senile old political has been doddering farts, who have no idea about the real world due to alcoholism and dementia make decisions that have ramifications for thousands of people.

I think that covers it.
 

giatttt

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Senile old political has been doddering farts, who have no idea about the real world due to alcoholism and dementia make decisions that have ramifications for thousands of people.

I think that covers it.

Oh is that another dig at the cold war warriors of the TA drinking clubs that sacrificed their livers to protect our shores from the might of the Soviet military machine?

Or are you speaking as a knowledgeable when sober and vaguely compos mentis insider?
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Senile old political has been doddering farts, who have no idea about the real world due to alcoholism and dementia make decisions that have ramifications for thousands of people.

I think that covers it.
Ah but that's the old HoL. Saint Tony reformed it to get rid of all the hereditariness which caused that. The HoL is now filled with stalwarts with lives of selfless, unswerving public service behind them.

Or something.
 
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Ah but that's the old HoL. Saint Tony reformed it to get rid of all the hereditariness which caused that. The HoL is now filled with stalwarts with a live of selfless, unswerving public service behind them.

Or something.
Really, I thought most of them bought their way in or got the ermine due to services rendered or extended periods of back scratching and selective looking the other way at opportune moments?
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Really, I thought most of them bought their way in or got the ermine due to services rendered or extended periods of back scratching and selective looking the other way at opportune moments?
Nooooo.

They are the best of us, the greatest of us. The HoL is a shining example of the egalitarianism we should all aspire to.



...actually, before the BBC became shít, it did a documentary on the HoL. It was about the time that the hereditary peerages were being abolished. It was very good.

One Lord lived in a London flat, and plummy accent and all, was filmed grilling a chop for supper as he spoke about his life and role. He noted that while many of them were Lords, the reality wasn't grandeur - that had long passed.

But - and this was crucial - they saw their role as providing a necessary check and balance on the government of the day, of protecting the longer-term 50-100-year interests of the country from the five-year ambitions of the government of the day.

That's why Blair wanted rid. He wanted to rubber-stamp change. The HoL is arguably less fair now that it was but the conceit is that it's 'better'.
 
Nooooo.

They are the best of us, the greatest of us. The HoL is a shining example of the egalitarianism we should all aspire to.



...actually, before the BBC became shít, it did a documentary on the HoL. It was about the time that the hereditary peerages were being abolished. It was very good.

One Lord lived in a London flat, and plummy accent and all, was filmed grilling a chop for supper as he spoke about his life and role. He noted that while many of them were Lords, the reality wasn't grandeur - that had long passed.

But - and this was crucial - they saw their role as providing a necessary check and balance on the government of the day, of protecting the longer-term 50-100-year interests of the country from the five-year ambitions of the government of the day.

That's why Blair wanted rid. He wanted to rubber-stamp change. The HoL is arguably less fair now that it was but the conceit is that it's 'better'.
And these ‘checks and balances’ can still be bypassed by the HoC if they are so minded!
 
Nooooo.

They are the best of us, the greatest of us. The HoL is a shining example of the egalitarianism we should all aspire to.



...actually, before the BBC became shít, it did a documentary on the HoL. It was about the time that the hereditary peerages were being abolished. It was very good.

One Lord lived in a London flat, and plummy accent and all, was filmed grilling a chop for supper as he spoke about his life and role. He noted that while many of them were Lords, the reality wasn't grandeur - that had long passed.

But - and this was crucial - they saw their role as providing a necessary check and balance on the government of the day, of protecting the longer-term 50-100-year interests of the country from the five-year ambitions of the government of the day.

That's why Blair wanted rid. He wanted to rubber-stamp change. The HoL is arguably less fair now that it was but the conceit is that it's 'better'.
Interestingly, since the removal of all but a few hereditaries, the only elected members of the HoL are the hereditaries.
When an incumbent dies or decides to quit the House, the remaining hereditaries, themselves, elect a replacement from those scions of noble houses who are ‘out in the cold’ as it were.
 

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