Lord Foulkes accuses Dannatt of disloyalty

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  1. Ah, enter a Labour toerag of the very worst possible kind.

    Fury at Labour peer’s attack on ‘disloyal’ Dannatt

    "A senior Labour peer sparked outrage today by accusing Britain's military chiefs of giving “succour” to the Taliban.

    Former defence minister Lord Foulkes of Cumnock accused the head of the Armed Forces and the Army's chief of making comments that “threaten to undermine” the UK's effort in Afghanistan.

    Speaking in the Lords, he called for defence minister Baroness Taylor of Bolton to remind Army head General Sir Richard Dannatt and Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup of the “importance of loyalty”.

    Last Friday Sir Jock went to Downing Street with a list of requirements for British troops drawn up by Gen Dannatt.

    "Lord Foulkes, an Intelligence and Security Committee member, told Lady Taylor: “In this media dominated age it is even more important than ever to maintain a united front in dealing with ruthless and cunning enemies like the Taliban and al-Qaeda...the public comments of Sir Richard Dannatt and Sir Jock Stirrup threaten to undermine our effort in Afghanistan and give succour to the enemy.”

    Shadow defence minister Gerald Howarth said: “It is outrageous for Lord Foulkes to accuse an outstanding general of helping to undermine the mission in Afghanistan General Dannatt has not only inspired his men through his military leadership, but has done more than anyone else to generate tremendous public support.”

  2. Perhaps the "importance of loyalty" is something of which Lord Foulkes of Cumnock needs to remind himself.
  3. BiscuitsAB

    BiscuitsAB LE Moderator

    Another attack on a decent bloke shame really, but whats anybody on here going to do about it? nothing! Mr Potato head went, the Naafi bars died. the fires gone out of this place and if you look over there in the corner theres a small boy pissing on the ashes.

    Adeo quod gratiae pro totus piscis piscis
  4. LancePrivateJones

    LancePrivateJones LE Book Reviewer

  5. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

    Lets look at the contenders General Dannet v Lord Toady of fukwittyness


    As Baron Foulkes of Cumnock, former Labour MP George Foulkes sports a title as florid as his ample cheeks.
    His opinions are equally colourful and frequently targeted at anyone who has the temerity to question Government policies or the activities of his friends.

    His name is a byword in Westminster for unthinking tribalism and shameless sycophancy. One writer once complained: 'His toadying is becoming embarrassing even by Westminster standards.'
    But his accomplishments in the military arena are rather less striking. As one MP put it yesterday: 'The only fighting George has ever been interested in is fighting his way to the bar.'

    Indeed it was his taste for drink which summarily ended his only experience of the Armed Forces.
    He was Labour's defence spokesman in opposition between 1992 and 1993 but was forced to resign after he admitted assault and being drunk and disorderly following a reception hosted by the Scotch Whisky Association.
    He spent a night in police custody and was fined £1,050.

    Lord Foulkes - whose Gordon Highlander grandfather won the military medal in the First World War - became an MP in 1979 after a career in student politics and local government.
    When Labour won power in 1997 he was Clare Short's deputy at the Department for International Development. After a couple of other jobs he got a peerage in 2005.

    General Sir Richard Dannatt MC

    General Sir Richard Dannatt has been the most outspoken Army chief of recent years.
    The first 37 of his 40 years of service saw him win a reputation as a cool and accomplished safe pair of hands.

    Telling the truth about soldiers' pay, living conditions and equipment made him a popular figure with frontline troops, who affectionately dubbed him 'the Reverend' because of his profound religious beliefs.

    The General himself had risen through the ranks after distinguished service with the Green Howards which garnered him a Military Cross in Northern Ireland at just 22

    I know who I trust and would rather have speaking out for me
  6. My understanding has always been that an officer’s loyalty is first and foremost to those under his command. Gen Dannatt is doing his job, while certain politicians are doing their best to undermine him. (Acceptable) words fail me.
  7. Technically it's to HMTQ.

    Ffoulkes would do well to remember that it's HMTQ in person and not 'the Crown'. And perhaps he can look up 'loyalty' while he's about it.
  8. The majority of the members on here will be fully aware of the mud slinging towards the outgoing CGS at the moment, the Government are on a losing battle on this issue.
  9. :clap: :clap: :clap:
  10. And while he's at it, perhaps he should also be reminded that public service is not (or at least should not be) entirely consistent with being a moaning, incompetent, mind numbingly stupid, self-serving, sycophantic piece of faeces who isn't fit to lick the bacteria on the soles of Gen Dannatt's muddiest pair of (probably greeen) wellies.
  11. To be fair Lord Foulkes is an individual Labour peer, not a member of the present Government, and his comments were not in the least encouraged by the Government spokesman Baroness Taylor. Still doesnt excuse his mischievous and wholly unhelpful intervention.
  12. George Foooooks = twunt of the highest order
  13. Don't ever let it be forgotten that this is the same Lord Foulkes who attempted to defend the indefensible by speaking out in favour of Michael Martin MP, the former Speaker whose expense account was beyond the pale of even Westminster standards.
    Should tell you all you need to know, really :evil:
  14. Being insulted and smeared by the Labour goons is quiet possibly the greatest compliment that can be paid to The Reverand.

    The more they try to blacken his name and undermine his position, the greater they expose their own lies and deceit and treachery and the more honorable and loyal he appears. We should rejoice because this campaign is firther damaging their corrupt party and they cannot fathom that they are actually the architects of their own destruction.

    Roll on the election, let us be shot of these foul traitors.