Lord Drayson

#2
Chance would be a fine thing. He was a genuinely talented person who understood his job and how to help the Services.
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#6
As a septic observer I thought US politics could get confusing. Right now it would be a miracle for anyone, including Mr. Brown to remember who is minister of what.

Maybe if they played music and when it stops each minister sits in the nearest chair and then see what the label reads.

All I can say at this point is good luck to all of you.
 
#7
DavidBOC said:
As a septic observer I thought US politics could get confusing. Right now it would be a miracle for anyone, including Mr. Brown to remember who is minister of what.

Maybe if they played music and when it stops each minister sits in the nearest chair and then see what the label reads.

All I can say at this point is good luck to all of you.
I didn't think that Septics did "sarcasm"? :D

Lits
 
#8
And what is he going to do with the little time he will have in this position? Is he likely to want to/be allowed to stay on after a change in government?

I like the man and think he is really good news but the Chiefs ganged up on him last time and I don't think that things have changed much. How much frustration will he be able to put up with this time round if he can't get reforms through? He needs more authority than he was given last time.

There is so little money to have, the Chiefs will be at each others throats whenever anyone threatens their individual spend and that what Drayson will find himself up against again.

Perhaps if he was to take one task on, it would be to reset our pathetic procurement techniques to something that works. If he could achieve that, I'd name him magician.
 
#9
He's been back in government for the last 8 months, don't think he's moved to defence though, although with all the reshuffles he might end up back here, although i doubt it as Drayson is still working away in the science role.
 
#10
Argee2007 said:
He's been back in government for the last 8 months, don't think he's moved to defence though, although with all the reshuffles he might end up back here, although i doubt it as Drayson is still working away in the science role.
I agree and that is why I wrote that the BBC article didn't read well.

There was a recent broadsheet article on the gentleman that described him as being happy and on his way to Le Mans (IIRC) where he was to race a "green" racing car (if there is such a thing...). The article suggested that Lord Drayson was very happy as the "Science" Minister and wasn't about to return to the MOD! Too much like hard work, perhaps?

Litotes
 
#13
DavidBOC said:
As a septic observer I thought US politics could get confusing. Right now it would be a miracle for anyone, including Mr. Brown to remember who is minister of what.

Maybe if they played music and when it stops each minister sits in the nearest chair and then see what the label reads.

All I can say at this point is good luck to all of you.
Ohhh...THAT's how he's picking new Ministers....... :p
 
#14
Interesting. His is not the only "joint" appointment in that list. I dont recall having seen that before.

Also in that list, the new Minister of State for the Armed Forces, Bill Rammell MP.
 
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hackle said:
Interesting. His is not the only "joint" appointment in that list. I dont recall having seen that before.

Also in that list, the new Minister of State for the Armed Forces, Bill Rammell MP.
I haven't seen that before, but isn't that what happens when you are scraping the bottom of the barrel for talent? Spread the jobs around between your better staff and hope they can juggle all the balls without dropping them!

Bill Rammell is a new name for me; I have never heard of him (he's recently been in the Foreign Office but has also frequently moved jobs since being elected to Parliament) but, as Min (AF) we'll be seeing a lot of him.

Except... he only has a majority of 97 votes!

and will be spending most of his time worrying about losing his seat!

Litotes
 
#16
Are they all not going to be spending more time thinking about about losing there seats! Rather than there government job.

That with any planned unplanned cuts is going to ensure that there is very little focus i fear, not a good position for those on Ops or the rest of the country.
 
#17
in_the_cheapseats said:
And what is he going to do with the little time he will have in this position? Is he likely to want to/be allowed to stay on after a change in government?

I like the man and think he is really good news but the Chiefs ganged up on him last time and I don't think that things have changed much. How much frustration will he be able to put up with this time round if he can't get reforms through? He needs more authority than he was given last time.

There is so little money to have, the Chiefs will be at each others throats whenever anyone threatens their individual spend and that what Drayson will find himself up against again.

Perhaps if he was to take one task on, it would be to reset our pathetic procurement techniques to something that works. If he could achieve that, I'd name him magician.
There is a degree of puzzlement in the corridors... Lord Drayson left the MOD last time because he wanted to spend more time with his racing cars (and couldn't get his Defence Industrial Strategy past the Treasury, allegedly).

He has now returned to the MOD when funding is likely to be even tighter!

As I wrote; my colleagues and I are puzzled! :D

I would point out that, not only does Lord Drayson have a huge amount of industry experience, but he comes free to the Government - as he is, reportedly, unpaid.

Litotes
 
#18
Yeah, rumours are he left because the government went behind him and pretty much killed off his plan to update the DIS with a new system.

I don't know what he will be doing, to be honest i don't think anyone knew what the previous two did after Drayson left, the budgets are getting cut, every MoD department seems to be getting orders to reduce what they can and projects are getting binned or cut back, not really a good time for the MoD just now.
 

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#20
hackle said:
Interesting. His is not the only "joint" appointment in that list. I dont recall having seen that before.

Also in that list, the new Minister of State for the Armed Forces, Bill Rammell MP.
The first 'joint' Minister? Do you not recall that we in the MOD shared our Secretary of State (Des Browne) with Scotland for quite a while - it was considered at the time to be something of an insult, and the ARRSE threads are there if you care to hunt them out, I'm sure. From a Defence website (link below):

"Overhauling the defence procurement process was Lord Drayson's overwhelming priority during his time in office.

Industry leaders loved his enthusiasm and ability to connect with them. Lord Drayson continuously demonstrated a commitment to procuring the best possible equipment and upgrading older equipment to make it state of the art.

However it has long been rumoured that he resigned out of frustration over the lack of funding Prime Minister Gordon Brown was allocating to the MoD. Lord Drayson will find that things have changed for the worse in the 19 months he was away from the MoD.

The move will be met with mixed emotions across the defence spectrum. While he is widely respected amongst industry leaders, some MPs and officials will be wary of another minister with dual roles. Des Browne came under repeated criticisms for being a "part-time" defence minister when he shared a ministerial portfolio with the Scotland Office.

There will also be questions over what exactly Lord Drayson's role will consist of, how much time he will be able to commit to the MoD while working in another department and whether this move will see BERR gain a stronger footing in defence procurement and the MoD. In recent months Lord Mandelson, the Business Secretary has become the chief negotiator and mediator in defence procurement disputes.
"


http://www.defencemanagement.com/news_story.asp?id=9718


There you have it - not only a part-time Minister, but we have Lord Fondlebum involved as well. Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse...................
 

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