Lonely death of Private Dave Forshaw

#3
RIP Private Forshaw

There needs to be a massive policy shift in post-deployment support for TA soldiers - another breach in the duty of care. "Welcome back to Britain, and RTMC Chilwell. Ta and all that. F*ck off." Its about time the powers that be treated TA welfare seriously. Decompression time and a proper mutual support network needs to be started, and PFQ.
 
#5
We can't expect guys injured like this to fend for themselves though - yes, the help was available, but for whatever reason the poor guy didn't take it. My point is that help from the Army should be an active, rather than passive system - yes, it'll cost more, but even one death like this is one too many. There should be a mechanism whereby a bloke who'd served on the same tour should call on guys personally, have a pint or whatever, and check they are coping.
 
#6
sarnian said:
There should be a mechanism whereby a bloke who'd served on the same tour should call on guys personally, have a pint or whatever, and check they are coping.
That's the job of the ROSO.

msr
 
#8
A tragic story, RIP lad.


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#9
sarnian said:
RIP Private Forshaw

There needs to be a massive policy shift in post-deployment support for TA soldiers - another breach in the duty of care. "Welcome back to Britain, and RTMC Chilwell. Ta and all that. F*ck off." Its about time the powers that be treated TA welfare seriously. Decompression time and a proper mutual support network needs to be started, and PFQ.

Agree totally there sarnian, there is just a total lack of care post tour for these lads and lass’s but what can be done?

I would suggest that a deployment be extended to a year, with the individual TA Soldier or Unit becoming a Regular component of the deploying Unit at least 3 months before deployment and remain so for at least 3, maybe 4 months post tour to allow for a good wind down amongst people who been there, walked the walk and talk the talk so to speak, just what effect that would have on the employers I don’t know.

A lot could also be said for bringing the TA closer to the Reg Army with more combined trg etc and to allowing reservists to use the Military Medical system all the time but then we would have an even stronger case for Military Hospitals wouldn’t we...... and we all known the Governments answer to that one.


Sadly though, all this wont help Private Forshaw, RiP lad, sorry you were let down by the system, thoughts as always with family and friends.
 
#10
msr said:
sarnian said:
There should be a mechanism whereby a bloke who'd served on the same tour should call on guys personally, have a pint or whatever, and check they are coping.
That's the job of the ROSO.

msr
Would that be the unfunded posts then?
 
#11
#13
polar said:
Shouldn't all of us be on the look out for warning signs. Hows about ditching one or two MATTS and adding something to help see the signs of stress.
Yes. Printed on 2 sides of TAM paper. Is there an aide memoire we could add to the e-nirex?

msr
 
#16
GroupOfficer said:
RiP..... We need to try and ensure that this does not happen
What are you proposing?

msr
 
#17
osborne said:
RIP Private Forshaw.

If anyone reading this in the Reserves needs help like he did, or you know someone who does, contact the Reservist Mental Health team at Chilwell.

http://www.army.mod.uk/rtmc/rmhp.htm

The link above has details. Quote:
The RMHP is a tri-Service initiative, established at Chilwell (co-located with RTMC). The programme is designed to enable Reservists (RNR,RMR,TA,RAuxAF and Regular Reserves) who have mobilised and deployed as Reservists, to access a mental health programme. In partnership with the NHS, the RMHP aims to assess and where appropriate, provide outpatient care. Reservists demobilised from an operational theatre since 01 Jan 03 are eligible for this service. Users or their GP can access the system, concerned relatives or friends can obtain advice by telephoning freephone 0800 0326258. Unquote.

If you are an ex-Regular struggling with the same demons, try the Medical Assessment Programme at St Thomas's hospital in London. Quote from MOD website:

The Medical Assessment Programme

The Medical Assessment Programme (MAP) was established in July 1993 to examine UK Gulf veterans who were concerned that their health had been adversely affected by service in the 1990/1991 Gulf Conflict. Defence Ministers have extended the role of the MAP in recent years to other groups of veterans so that they may too benefit from the knowledge and skills developed in assessing veterans with physical or mental health concerns.

The service provided by the MAP is as follows:

General Medical Examination for:

1990/1991 Gulf Veterans
Porton Down Veterans
Veterans of the current operation in Iraq (Operation TELIC)
Veterans of the current operation in Afghanistan (Operation HERRICK)
Mental Health Examination for:

All veterans with operational service since 1982 (including veterans of the Falklands Conflict)
The MAP is located at St Thomas' Hospital, London. The MAP is staffed by a doctor who is a qualified General Practitioner and Consultant Psychiatrist with extensive military experience and knowledge of military psychiatry. Veterans with operational service since 1982 (including veterans of the Falklands Conflict) who feel they would benefit from seeing a consultant with a military background should seek a referral via their General Practitioner to the MAP.

Service Medical Officers or General Practitioners wishing to refer a patient should write to the following address:

Head of Medical Assessment Programme
Baird Health Centre
Gassiot House
St Thomas’ Hospital
Lambeth Palace Road
London
SE1 7EH

For those Service Medical Officers or General Practitioners wishing further information about the MAP service they may contact the MAP on Freephone: 0800 169 5401. Unquote.


Or contact the charity "Combat Stress". Don't struggle on alone!
 
#20
msr said:
polar said:
Shouldn't all of us be on the look out for warning signs. Hows about ditching one or two MATTS and adding something to help see the signs of stress.
Yes. Printed on 2 sides of TAM paper. Is there an aide memoire we could add to the e-nirex?

msr
If someone can give me the right content for such an aide memoire I'd be happy to lay it out as a PDF for uploading to the e-nirex collection.
 

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