London Tube Strike

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#1
RMT statement:

Metronet strike suspended after eight hours of talks

Publication Date: September 5 2007

STRIKE ACTION by more than 2,300 Metronet maintenance workers was suspended late last night after more than eight hours of talks between RMT, the failed company, its administrator and TfL yielded progress on the issues involved in the dispute.

The union's planned action for next Monday remains on, pending the outcome of today's pension trustees board meeting, and pending consultation with the union's reps on Friday.

"We now have in writing from the employer that the originally proposed pension-scheme rescue is withdrawn, and that a full scheme rescue will be placed before the TfL pension trustees board today, and is expected to be in place by Thursday," RMT general secretary Bob Crow said today.

"This means that our members will now actually have their pensions restored to them, which is rather different than promises from a man in an expensive suit.

"Further to the existing assurance that there will be no job losses or transfers during the period of administration, we also now have written commitments that any subsequent proposals will be subject to proper discussions through the existing negotiating machinery and the code of practice agreed at the time the PPP was introduced.

"This means that the threat of 691 job losses, tabled before Metronet's collapse and postponed by the administrator, has been withdrawn entirely.

"As a result of the detailed talks last night, the RMT executive suspended the current industrial action, although the action scheduled to begin next Monday remains on, pending the successful outcome of today's pension meeting and consultation with our reps on Friday.

"Our members are to be congratulated for their rock-solid action, and can return to work with their heads held high after sustaining their strike in the face of enormous pressure and hostile media.

"It is their unity that has given their union the strength it needed to hold its position in this difficult dispute.

"The dispute has underlined the need to bring the maintenance of London Underground back into the public sector, and that is what our members and the vast majority of Londoners want," Bob Crow said.

http://www.rmt.org.uk/Templates/Internal.asp?NodeID=100599&int1stParentNodeID=89732
So the strike, amongst other things, secured the workers’ pensions. And the two unions who agreed the original offer bought a pig in a poke. But their members – who crossed RMT picket lines yesterday - will now benefit from the RMT’s action.

Funnily enough, all this has gone unreported in the UK media. Odd eh? But there's oodles about Bob Crow being a former Communist Party member and mate of one A. Scargill Esq. But that's what's important isn't it?

Anyone else here a Bob Crow fan, one of the few British trade union leaders - together with the right-wing POA - to stand up for his members?
 
#2
BULL SHIIT

The pension rights and wage structures had already been secured and assurances had been given, hence the other two unions standing down. This has been fully reported on the BBC, and the only reason the RMT continued with this action, despite countless reassurances was because the fcuking ignorance and bloody mindedness of that idiot Crow, who even Ken Livingston called an fing idiot.

Lost the country something like 5 billion because of this
 
#3
What rubbish - there was no need for the strike at all, as all the required assurances had been given. This was some Union Sabre rattling.
 
#4
drain_sniffer said:
The pension rights and wage structures had already been secured and assurances had been given
Not. True. Read the statement.


This has been fully reported on the BBC
Not. True. The BBC failed to report the nature of the dispute, concentrating instead on outraged commuters.

and the only reason the RMT continued with this action, despite countless reassurances was because the fcuking ignorance and bloody mindedness of that idiot Crow, who even Ken Livingston called an fing idiot.
Not. True. The RMT got substantial concessions out the Metronet administrators and (should today's meeting go as planned) the pension fund trustees.

In other words, Bob Crow did precisely what he was elected to do. And why the RMT in London has increased it's membership by a third.

He's also upfront and honest about industrial action on the Tube:

He once said: "I'm not one of those union officials who continually say they regret the inconvenience caused by industrial action. You cannot have a dispute without inconvenience to the travelling public."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article2927069.ece
Plus he's a Millwall supporter. :D
 
#5
RABC said:
What rubbish - there was no need for the strike at all, as all the required assurances had been given. This was some Union Sabre rattling.
LOL. Yet another taken in by the media propaganda.
 
#6
annakey said:
drain_sniffer said:
The pension rights and wage structures had already been secured and assurances had been given
Not. True. Read the statement. VERY TRUE, read the background rather than some commy statement

This has been fully reported on the BBC
Not. True. The BBC failed to report the nature of the dispute, concentrating instead on outraged commuters. VERY TRUE. Try listening to Radio 4 and 5 once in a while
and the only reason the RMT continued with this action, despite countless reassurances was because the fcuking ignorance and bloody mindedness of that idiot Crow, who even Ken Livingston called an fing idiot.
Not. True. The RMT got substantial concessions out the Metronet administrators and (should today's meeting go as planned) the pension fund trustees.

In other words, Bob Crow did precisely what he was elected to do. And why the RMT in London has increased it's membership by a third.

He's also upfront and honest about industrial action on the Tube:

He once said: "I'm not one of those union officials who continually say they regret the inconvenience caused by industrial action. You cannot have a dispute without inconvenience to the travelling public."

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article2927069.ece
Plus he's a Millwall supporter. :D
Basically, everything you have said is complete balls. Do a little research rather than listen to your commy mates
 
#7
Not as much as you have been taken in by that overpaid Muppet you call a General Secretary. RMT really has the public support now !! Prats
 
#8
Annakey, you're a lefty. That's disgusting in the extreme. There was no reason for you to accuse someone of being "taken in" by the media. Crows an idiot, pure and simple, who's caused hassle and disruption and financial losses to thousands over the past few days, and he should be strung up.
 
#9
drain_sniffer said:
Basically, everything you have said is complete balls. Do a little research rather than listen to your commy mates
(a) I've done more research than the BBC bothered to do. What more d'you want?

(b) My only current (former) CPGB mate is out boozing with tube driver!
 
#10
Yes, well, according to TfL, Metronet and London Underground the RMT has secured nothing more other than "clarification" on certain points that were already negotiated and set out in a letter to the RMT dated 3 September.

Maybe those were important points but did this strike need to go ahead? No, Crow was just showboating.

There is also the small matter that Metronet, the employer, is insolvent and there are limits to what the Administrator can legally agree to. Also the independant Trustees of the Pension Scheme have to agee to all proposals anyway.

Clearly both parties won and had God on their side.
 
#11
They're all c*nts, including Crow.

There. Simple as, and sums up the situation perfectly.
 
#12
annakey said:
(a) I've done more research than the BBC bothered to do. What more d'you want?
Which means what, you've read a RMT statement on how well they've done. Commie tw@t
 
#13
Point to note, Annakey - No one on this site trusts the BBCs reporting as it is, so whether or not you do your research better than they do is a moot point.
 
#14
The_Goon said:
There was no reason for you to accuse someone of being "taken in" by the media.
But if they've been manipulated by the media - and they clearly have - why not point it out? OK, I accept their face may go an even darker shade of puce but that's why there's a poll option.

:D
 
#15
The_Goon said:
Point to note, Annakey - No one on this site trusts the BBCs reporting as it is, so whether or not you do your research better than they do is a moot point.
That's a fair point.
 
#16
I do like this site. You're good sports. :D


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This is a genuine, non-trolling, poll btw. I noticed (and was impressed by) the support given on ARSSE to the POA during their recent (highly illegal) dispute so wondered if Saint Bob would get the same for his (scrupulously legal) strike.

(((ARSSE militants)))
 
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#18
I see them as a bunch of low skilled workers, striking without good reason.

Put me in charge, I’ll have them all sacked and replaced within a month :twisted:

I’m sure there are plenty of Eastern Europeans who’d jump at the chance for a £30k job of “train go backwards, train go forwards”

sums them up nicely
 
#19
RABC said:
Get back under your bridge now then !!
There's an important point beneath all the froth:

"We now have in writing from the employer that the originally proposed pension-scheme rescue is withdrawn, and that a full scheme rescue will be placed before the TfL pension trustees board today, and is expected to be in place by Thursday," RMT general secretary Bob Crow said today.

"This means that our members will now actually have their pensions restored to them, which is rather different than promises from a man in an expensive suit.
As anyone here with experience of a TUPE transfer knows, pensions are the flash point. They're not protected by the legislation. So it all boils down to how much industrial and/or political pressure you can place on the new employer or, in this case, the Metronet administrators.

I can guarantee you, one hundred percent, that if anyone tried to interfere with an ARSSE member's pension there'd be the most monumental huffing and puffing. Quite right too.

So the tube workers have not only won, they've done so in the teeth of a tissue of lies spread about by all the major media organs, and then regurgitated by some on this thread. It’s very funny to watch.
 

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