London Jocks

#1
95 years ago today the BEF hit rock bottom. Everything they had was committed and the Germans were coming back for more.

In an act of desperation the London Scottish moved into the line next to the Grenadiers on Messines ridge. The TA was for the first time committed.

At grievous cost (90% casualties) they held the line.

'Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it' as some wise man said.
 
#2
72 hours from Drill Hall to hanging on the wire..

Strike Sure.
 

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#3
And as a Reward, today you get to share your (quite stunning) Drill Hall with the FANY :)

Seriously, the TA did themselves proud, and none more so than the London Scottish. Incidentally, did they go into action in Kilts or Trousers?
 
#5
32 years since my first Hallowe'en Dinner.

Couldn't go last night but raised a glass. It was jolly lucky that windmill was on fire or they wouldn't have known where to shoot!
 
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OldSnowy said:
And as a Reward, today you get to share your (quite stunning) Drill Hall with the FANY :)Seriously, the TA did themselves proud, and none more so than the London Scottish. Incidentally, did they go into action in Kilts or Trousers?
the privilege is entirely ours :)
 

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#10
A mere 27 since my first Halloween at 59. Unfortuantely I could not attend either this year.

One for the London Scottish is, and evermore shall be so...

PS I was doing a PFT in Derring Lines a few weeks ago and I saw a chap cutting about in a Guards Beret and backing with a LS badge. Is this the normal form now?
 
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OldSnowy said:
And as a Reward, today you get to share your (quite stunning) Drill Hall with the FANY :)

Seriously, the TA did themselves proud, and none more so than the London Scottish. Incidentally, did they go into action in Kilts or Trousers?
Kilts. My Great Uncle Jack was at Messines in the London Jocks. He said they used to have to wear big leather kilt covers over them to keep the mud off!
 
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BuggerAll said:
PS I was doing a PFT in Derring Lines a few weeks ago and I saw a chap cutting about in a Guards Beret and backing with a LS badge. Is this the normal form now?
No. TRF and, for officers, garter rank stars only. Headdress remains ethnic apart from AGC/REME etc.

Not sure the jock badge would fit on a beret anyway! (unless you had a really large head...)
 

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Queensman said:
OldSnowy said:
And as a Reward, today you get to share your (quite stunning) Drill Hall with the FANY :)

Seriously, the TA did themselves proud, and none more so than the London Scottish. Incidentally, did they go into action in Kilts or Trousers?
Kilts. My Great Uncle Jack was at Messines in the London Jocks. He said they used to have to wear big leather kilt covers over them to keep the mud off!
There are canvas kilt covers in the Regimental Museum at 95 but I've not seen or heard of leather kilt covers.

BTB: Anyone who has not visited the London Scottish Museum should do so. Its open most days although its probably advisable to telephone in advance.
 

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#16
London_Jock said:
BuggerAll said:
PS I was doing a PFT in Derring Lines a few weeks ago and I saw a chap cutting about in a Guards Beret and backing with a LS badge. Is this the normal form now?
No. TRF and, for officers, garter rank stars only. Headdress remains ethnic apart from AGC/REME etc.

Not sure the jock badge would fit on a beret anyway! (unless you had a really large head...)
I think he was using a Sporran Badge. Bearing in mind that I'm a fat middle ages bloke in the middle of a PFT... T'was definitely an LS badge on a Guards Beret.
 
#17
BA - its a possibility, there was a member of the battalion wearing such when he started FTRS with the Irish Guards. I understand that he is now wearing an Irish Guards capstar.
 
#18
Bravo_Bravo said:
Bravo_Bravo said:
Yes, it is.
My bad - Guards TRF; ToS, etc, as appropriate.

Sorry for any panic caused...

:oops:
Panic is the right word - I was just about to launch into the most enormous rebuttal :x :D
 
#20
Thinking through, its quite possible that what was seen was on eof the Londons PWRR-capbadged blokes; their headdress is similar in colour to that of the Guards, and being Londons the PWRR guys wear the Guards TRF.
 
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