Local Rank

#1
Does anyone have the link to the form for Local Rank? Tried looking on MS web, Armynet and dii. Cannot find it.
Cheers in advance

HB
 
#3
paywog said:
This is normally done by letter - CO to Bde Comd.

PW
Absouloutly, Local Rank can only be granted by a Bde Comd, and the rank only applies to the Bde in which you are serving, and as PW states, it is done by request letter from the CO to the Bde Comd, no set proforma required.

Some units are under the mistaken impression that the CO can grant Local Rank, this is not the case, it has to be granted by Bde Comd or equivalent and only for prestiege purposes/employment related issues, it is unpaid and unpensioniable.

Sorry for my spelling and grammer etc, it's a tad late.
 
#5
heidtheba said:
And why would you want it?
Yep, quite right, see my post, unpaid and it does not attract any pension benefits, what's the point, unless you are working in a non rank ranged post and you are expected to take the senior role in that post, however, your boss is still in post and SUPA or Acting rank is not availiable.

Bend Over, oh here is another tape, well done.
 
#7
LongJohnSilver said:
heidtheba said:
And why would you want it?
Yep, quite right, see my post, unpaid and it does not attract any pension benefits, what's the point, unless you are working in a non rank ranged post and you are expected to take the senior role in that post, however, your boss is still in post and SUPA or Acting rank is not availiable.

Bend Over, oh here is another tape, well done.[/quote]

And we will take it back when we want :roll:
 
#8
heidtheba said:
And why would you want it?
It was a little while back, however, I was granted local rank in the FI to enable me to do my job.

Not by choice, however my unit had done a couple of tours and decide my boss didn’t need to deploy. The CRABS decided differently and rather than move my boss 8000 miles I was given the rank.

I was more than capable of performing the task in the rank I was in, however due to CRAB politics I needed to be promoted, therefore, in my experience there are circumstances where throwing an extra tape on has benefits to get the job done

That answer doesn’t help in the slightest though does it :D :D :D
 
#9
CAARPS said:
heidtheba said:
And why would you want it?
It was a little while back, however, I was granted local rank in the FI to enable me to do my job.

Not by choice, however my unit had done a couple of tours and decide my boss didn’t need to deploy. The CRABS decided differently and rather than move my boss 8000 miles I was given the rank.

I was more than capable of performing the task in the rank I was in, however due to CRAB politics I needed to be promoted, therefore, in my experience there are circumstances where throwing an extra tape on has benefits to get the job done

That answer doesn’t help in the slightest though does it :D :D :D
Not really, but heh ho, crack on.

(if you want to).
 
#10
I've written a letter to our regional brigade G1 wallah and had the local rank granted for some guys before. Pretty straightforwards really. We needed it to allow full screws to instruct on PDT as Local Sgts for a period of time, it also allowed them to stay in the Mess rather than the pump transit accommodation.
 
#12
fingers_1661 said:
Local rank is the first stage of a mismanaged career, especially when they take it off you (despite promises to the contrary). Everyone thinks you've been busted!!
It depends how it used. If it is a temporary measure, recognised by both parties there is nothing wrong with it.
 
#13
its a ffuckin con...trust me....been there got the tapes on the t shirt....then didnt .......promised the earth, was given some earth at the end...wwankers
 
#14
There's a distinct smell of Sour Grapes in this topic.
Attitude of some makes me wonder how they were ever considered for local rank in the first place.
For the others, local rank can provide you with the opportunity to show you can perform in the higher rank. Just my opinion.
Clarification: Are these still the conditions?
Local Rank = Unpaid
Acting Rank = Paid following a qualifying period of 35 days unpaid.
 
#15
PaddyQ said:
There's a distinct smell of Sour Grapes in this topic.
Attitude of some makes me wonder how they were ever considered for local rank in the first place.
For the others, local rank can provide you with the opportunity to show you can perform in the higher rank. Just my opinion.
Not from me Paddy.

I have just seen some blokes get fcuked over with it.

A year with local rank and then just hand it back when the CoC decide :x

I did see one instance where it brought a throbber back down with a bump :D
 
#16
sorry to butt in.
i was getting paid for local rank when i was a lance jack to full screw so how do you work out that you dont get paid.
 
#17
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
sorry to butt in.
i was getting paid for local rank when i was a lance jack to full screw so how do you work out that you dont get paid.
I think you will find you were acting mate.

You DO NOT get paid for Local rank.
 
#19
heidtheba said:
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
sorry to butt in.
i was getting paid for local rank when i was a lance jack to full screw so how do you work out that you dont get paid.
I think you will find you were acting mate.

You DO NOT get paid for Local rank.

Yes, back in my day we had guys who never understood the difference.

I was a victim of acting rank. Held it for about 18 months, lost it on posting.
6 months later substantive came through and I have my doubts as to what difference my time in the acting rank made as it took 5 years and 3 days to make sub LCpl VS.
So you can see we were being fcuked 40 odd years ago.
 
#20
WRAPJOBAGAIN said:
sorry to butt in.
i was getting paid for local rank when i was a lance jack to full screwdWA so how do you work out that you dont get paid.
It could be the case that if you were wearing the rank and filling the position of a full screw then your chain of command (if they were good eggs) would have applied for pay of higher rank (now substitution pay of course). Pretty transparent and it would have appeared like you were getting paid for being local. Winner!

Back in't'olden days, we used to blag a bit of local rank on courses with absolutely no authority to do so. Just book the accommodation and basically turn up with one extra stripe. Then when the course report would come back saying Cpl (or Sgt) PoisonDwarf did well on the course, the OC/CO would assume that someone else had squared away the rank, or it was one of those courses where everyone had to be a certain rank. But to all intents and purposes I had done a good job in the next rank up, hey presto - it's difficult to withhold a recommendation for promotion. It worked too - blagging is a skill that everyone should savour.
 
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