Local chav gets away with GBH on SNCO

#1
http://www.camberley.co.uk/story.asp?intid=1070&txtpaper=

Gary Womersley, 20, of Frimley Road, Watchetts, was acquitted of being responsible following a three-day trial at Guildford Crown Court.

He told a jury that he had gone to the scene armed with the bat after hearing that one of his friends was being shouted at and bullied by a group of older men.

The court was told the attack happened after a group of sergeants, who were on a two-week course at Deepcut Barracks, had enjoyed a night out in Camberley and stopped on their way home for food.

One of the soldiers got into a heated argument with a youth at the kebab stand in Frimley Road.

The youth was said to have gone away, but returned with a group of pals, including Mr Womersley.

Sgt Scholes told the jury that he and four colleagues on the course had been drinking in various pubs in the town before going on to Envy nightclub.

He said he had drunk “about eight or nine pints” which was normal for him and described himself as feeling “merry” by the time the group left around 2am.

They caught a taxi back to Deepcut, but stopped at a kebab stand in Frimley Road where they all got out to buy some food.

One of the soldiers, Sgt Derek Samuel, got into an argument with a youth who was there with a friend.

He told the court that the youth’s mum turned up and the two boys went off.

He said as the group were eating their food and waiting for another taxi he was approached by two males, including the one who had been arguing earlier.

Sgt Scholes said: “I believe someone turned and said ‘that is him there. Look at what he has done to my neck’.

“He was blaming me for whatever. The other lad had a baseball bat in his right hand and a small knife in his left hand.

“I said there is no need for knives or anything like that and I was walking backwards and tripped over a small wall.

“They then basically rushed me. I managed to get up and try and run away, but realised nobody was there to help me.

Anyone want to visit young Gary. scroat.

Where did all of Sgt Scholes mates go when he was getting this pasting!
 
#2
a. I gather that you made this statement from reading the report and that you weren't actually there.
b. You knew the accquitted personaly, his standards of dress etc etc.
 
#3
I live there, I know the acquitted, and yes... he is a chav. Of the slightly nastier variety than the everyday sort too.

There's always trouble after Envy nights, doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
 
#4
That just sums up justice here in the UK. If you can go out armed with a baseball bat, leave to get a stanley knife, get into a fight and not intend to use them but do......... what the f**k is going on???????????????

Do these Magistrates/ Judges actually live in the real world or some other planet????
 
#5
**** him you get into a drunken ruck one thing
but to go out armed with a baseball bat bloke needs to go down prefably as in targets will fall when hit :evil:
 
#6
Big Kahoona said:
Do these Magistrates/ Judges actually live in the real world .....????
NO they don't. They live highly insulated and safely cosseted from us peasants, heavily sedated on brandy before venturing out into the strange world we call reality. They wouldn't know reality until it hit them between the eyes with a baseball bat.
 
#9
In a Magistrates ( twisted ) logic:
Squaddie + Alcohol + Violence = Squaddie at fault.
 
#10
Chavs!..Feckin winkers the lot of 'em
 
#11
Seems to me, if the little scum is "getting away with it", perhaps the local community who are pised off with him, should do something about it, a warning maybe, a reminder he is not the gangster he thinks he is.
 
#12
Big Kahoona said:
Do these Magistrates/ Judges actually live in the real world or some other planet????
Yes and no. I know two magistrates (JPs, not stipendiary). One is also a Lord Lieutenant, lives in a huge house in its own grounds, spends most of the time doing good works on various committees and is fairly distant from 'ordinary' life. The other works as a baggage supervisor for an airline, is an ex-L/Cpl, lives in a council house and is very aware of the real world.

Judges are a different kettle of fish altogether. Having all been barristers for years before being appointed as judges, they live in a privileged and protected world and many seem completely ignorant of what goes on around them, which accounts for some of their bizarre pronouncements and decisions.

I recall a few years ago living in the same area as a similar scrote to the one in the report. No matter what he did, he always seemed to get off. It transpired that he was a police informer, and more use out than in, so to speak. Sadly for him he burgled the wrong house one day - the owner had some interesting Laandaan connections, and one summer evening matey was dealt with by two large gents in suits who politely knocked on his door, took him into the street, gave him a serious beating and a chat about why they were there, and then drove away. The scrote didn't report it but was suddenly much less keen on a life of petty crime...
 
#14
i despair at the justice of this country.
 
#15
Manchester_Rogue said:
I dont understand how he got off?
Exactly my initial thought, Manchester_Rogue. I'd have thought the case for GBH would've been pretty clear. Geezer rocks up with bat and a chiv. So what was his excuse? Did he want to carve his initials in the handle in the wee smalls?
The mind boggles!!!

MsG
 
#16
The nature of the incident doesnt surprise me at all, until I moved a couple of years ago, I lived on Watchetts Drive, a five minute walk from the kebab van. There are a nasty little group of scrotes who hang around that area, they never bothered me, but then I gave them no reason to.
What shocked me, is the fact that he was abandoned by his mates, their behaviour is worse than that of the assailants.
Perhaps there are mitigating circumstances, but they had better be bloody good, or else those concerned should hang their heads in shame.
 
#17
I've a distinct feeling that we don't have the whole story here because if we do then the SNCO in question should consider suing the relevant Chief Constable. A quick "Straw Poll" of my colleagues here confirms my first thoughts ie. the scrote in question should have been charged with Possession of an Offensive weapon with Intent cause fear of violence. in the situation as described he had absolutely no grounds for arming himself with a baseball bat in order to confront the SNCO's. Mere possession of such an implement in a Public place without a reasonable excuse ("I'm a member of a local Baseball team and I'm on my way to/from a game") is sufficient to get you arrested< never mind being involved in a fight or assaulting someone . Sorry to play the Devils Advocate and pee on all this righteous indignation but something's missing I fear! :?
 
#18
Want to hijack this topic for one moment (it is of some relevance), as we are talking of justice and magistrates.

I know someone that got into an argument in a pub last November...if anything he was diffusing the situation and was helping the doormen to calm things down when a black guy told him to "fcuk off" and called him a prrick. Now my mate turned and with out thinking called him a "C**n" (now can I say that it is unlike him and he has a few black mates and I believe him when he says it was in the heat of the moment etc...) and then he was grabbed from behind by the Police who had just turned up and he was nicked.
Now I don't condone what he did and can't stand racism or ignorance but did he deserve to be hauled in front of a Magistrate and be given a one month sentence (he got out just before xmas) and a year of community service.

I can't understand how those with weapons and the intent to use them get off whilst my mate got an out of proportion sentence!!
 
#19
Straight away its use of excessive force... Even in self defence. Look at your whitce card to see the guide to self defence.
However even worse it wasnt self defence as he proceeded to look for his victim whilst armed. The court system in this country is sh1te and wont change until some serious people in high up places get robbed/mugged/beat up/raped/murdered etc etc etc!!!

& if this fella and his mates were out on the p1ss why werent they stomping on this chavs eye balls within seconds. Something tells me he needs to get new mates!!!
 
#20
I got two really good kickings in similar circs - First in Plymouth - there was a gang known as The Swilly who would prey on tanked up matelots, marines and attached dudes (I was with the RE Cdo Sqn). I was outside a taxi rank in the Pentagon, swaying slightly (after "8 or 9 pints") when BANG! next thing I knew I was in RN sick bay being given rock all by some fat CPO for fighting in the street. Git.
What made it worse was a few years later me and the bezzer were jumped in Chatham High Street by...bloody matelots! Now I normally admire the navy but I was beginning to take this personally!
The Swilly blokes got 2 months suspended and fined £70 (which they paid of at 50p a month for, well you work it out).
The matelots were never caught.
Nautical tw@ts.
 

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