"Light" Infantry -- Not a wahhh onest

Discussion in 'Infantry' started by wellyhead, Jan 24, 2006.

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  1. OK, like the new ad campaign about time the grunts get some airtime but I have a rather simple question

    What is LIGHT ???

    Armour yes, big smelly things on tracks

    Mech yes, big smelly things with wheels

    Air Assault yes, big smelly things that fly

    But where does this Light business fall into the picture ? I did hear something about a new light brigade but what in reality will that mean ? Land Rovers ? Foot ? all of the above ?


    Looked on the MOD site and all I found was blokes going on about how great it is to get promoted


    I'm just trying to figure out where it falls inthe big scheme of things


    Please note ex-squaddie non grunt hence not a waaaaah
     
  2. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Light role tends to be everflexible as in airportable to airmobile depending upon the need at the time. Used to just mean no tracks but go father back and it really gets into LI Light as in rapid marching, armed with rifles (that'll be the SLR) and acting as a foot mounted screen or covering withdrawals.
     
  3. yep happy with the history, I just would like to know what this new Light definition is ?

    According the the website they are on boats ????

    Light Infantry
     
  4. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Cheap as in no vehicles and flexible as in can be f*cked about to the max!
     
  5. Cutaway

    Cutaway LE Reviewer

    Reference the link, are they getting confused at the MOD or is it just wishful thinking ?

     
  6. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Copped that one too, makes you wonder if they are dim as a TOC H lamp or sneaking in an alteration to the rifle to make it repetition only possibly to save on ammo!
     
  7. I think the governments view of 'light' is fire engines, dustbins etc
     

  8. Coincidentally I was speaking to a booty mate of mine at the weekend, he has done 22 and has been asked to stay on as they are so short of bods. He has been told he can stay until he is 50 at least (he is 40 now), the interesting thing though reference the LI and boats is he reckons there will be no RM in 5 years time because they cannot recruit enough decent people or retain the ones they have. They already have the Army at Lympstone helping out, so will the LI or Rifle Brigade or whatever they will be called eventually take on the RM role.
     
  9. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Funny thing about raising the bar or at least maintaining standards. Society changes but the standards required dont adapt and as stated before the training staff see themselves as gatekeepers to the Corps. The advert says it all 99.something% need not apply. If that in the end spells the end of the corps then thats what will happen. Army commandos again? A real possibility if this slides on. At what point does a 40 year old booty become too old? 50 or 65? Must be a great pension to last that long but how many storemen and admin staff can they replace with mature marines? There will be a point where there are more old marines than young commandos. Will they still have to be super fit? A good friend of mine was MD from the RM as he developed an eye defect and refused to be a cook or clerk which was all they could offer him.
     
  10. There is talk about one of the Rifle Battalions being Commando-badged and based in Chepstow. Unsure who this means they'll be attached to...
     
  11. Light 'Role' Infantry used to be all the cheap battalions that get driven into battle on 4 tonne Bedfords, before getting out and walking the rest of the way. They also used to specialise in things like moutainous terrain/ desert/ jungle.

    What with the arms plot crashing down, they now want each Regiment to have as many different 'roled' battalions as possible.
    Hence the new Yorkshire Regiment will have an Armoured Battalion, a mech Battalion and a Light Role Battalion. Other regiments have air assault battalions as well.
    Basically the Light Role Battalion will be the lucky one that gets to do all the peace-keeping jobs, perhaps a bit of jungle specialisation and, as the website suggests, the odd beach landing.
    Hopefully.
    Otherwise they'll just be used to stag on.

    The Light Infantry, on the other hand, is a regiment, and along with the Royal Green Jackets are part of the Light Division. Ironically one of the LI battalions is actually in the Armoured Role. These will all become 'The Rifles' soon, but remain in the Light Div. The name stems from Napoleonic stuff when they had Light Regiments (being a kind of Battle Honour), Light Companies (skirmishers) and Riflemen (see Sharpe) and has nothing to do with the modern role.
     
  12. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    Good call burgers!
     

  13. I am one of those going to chepstow and even i don't know, throw me a bone and tell me some one.
     
  14. ugly

    ugly LE Moderator

    That will be the former D&D and RGBW LI which is 1 Rifles I believe. Could be a chance to get a posting as most lads under reorg get an option of sorts!
     
  15. we do get a choice, cheptow or scotland !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(