Life Guards / Blues and Royals?

ugly

LE
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*Capt James Blo(u)nt BSc (Hons) went through university on an Army bursary: thus, he had to carry out a return of service or be obliged to pony up the fees for that degree. He extended for a further 2 years and left the Army in 2002.

I've met the chap and, after the Mem had finished swooning and generally behaving like a 16-year old, try as I might I could not help but like the chap: he has a dry and wicked sense of humour and is actually quite sharp.


*Dear God (other deities available), I can't believe that I'm writing this . . .
I like him too
 

ugly

LE
Moderator
In which case so might I
My boss retired as a Lt Colonel, spent time in teeney weeny airways as well as his normal regiment, The Life Guards.
Nice chap all round
 

P.O.N.T.I

Old-Salt
My boss retired as a Lt Colonel, spent time in teeney weeny airways as well as his normal regiment, The Life Guards.
Nice chap all round

"Normal Regiment" and "Life Guards" all in the same sentence. Well done, rarely seen
 

Cyberhacker

Old-Salt
They asked to be an Ajax regiment and aparrently you simply can't fit that size of vehicle in Combermere Barracks.
At the risk of a "Wah"... now that HCR have moved, and the Welsh Guards have moved into Combermere, who's going into Elizabeth at Pirbright?

Given that the barracks were completely refurbished a few years a go, ready for the Welsh to move in, it wouldn't surprise me if it is to be sold off...
 

Goatman

ADC
Book Reviewer
Turned into lucrative revenue earning housing? I have no idea, but the cynic in me says...
Ever been to Combermere? It's not quite St John's Wood :)
 

Goatman

ADC
Book Reviewer
When you all say HCR are moving to Bulford, do you mean Tidworth? Sounds like splitting hairs I know, but that’s the last I heard. Could be good in a way with a garrison containing KRH and QRH (if QRH ever move). Shouldn’t be short of a polo match or two, anyway.
Three Tidworth barracks were originally built there in the Boer War era, specifically to allow Cav regts to practice their skills on Salisbury Plain - the closest UK has to veldt conditions.


The names say it all

  • Aliwal
  • Bhurtpore
  • Jellalabad
All demolished mid 2000's and replaced under a Super Garrison contract called Project Allenby Connaught

The original Garrison Officers Mess (Tedworth House) is now a personnel Recovery Centre run jointly by the RBL and H4H : Personnel Recovery <br>Centres</br>


I don't know who replaced the now defunct Carillion in the project.

Edited to add:

Ah, now I do....Kellogg,Brown & Root. (KBR)

The American Facilities Management company which made it's first fortune during the Vietnam War, and another providing the US Army with logistic facilities for the duration of the war in Iraq.

So the largest PFI contract ever let by MoD is now very largely in US hands...... a costs+ cash cow that runs till 2041......good 'ere innit?



KBR was aquired by Texan company called Halliburton.

Halliburton's former CEO was one Dick Cheney, Vice President during George Dubya Bush's administration.

This makes interesting reading: ( SOURCE dated 09 June 2010 )

Halliburton, KBR, and Iraq war contracting: A history so far
By Angie Drobnic Holan on Wednesday, June 9th, 2010 at 4:21 p.m.


Most of the allegations of waste involving Halliburton focus on a subsidiary company that Halliburton acquired in 1962, then known as Brown & Root. A series of mergers under Halliburton's ownership led to its current name, Kellogg, Brown & Root, or KBR.

Halliburton's KBR held one of the largest contracts given during the Iraq war effort, the Logistics Civil Augmentation Program, or LOGCAP, which was part of the trend of government outsourcing traditionally military duties to the private sector. (We're focusing on the LOGCAP contract in this report because it's the contract that has the potential for "hundreds of millions of dollars" in fraud. There have been other isolated allegations of fraud that involved significantly smaller amounts.)

The history of KBR's LOGCAP contracts are documented in Hard Lessons: The Iraq Reconstruction Experience, a 2009 report prepared by the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction:

"Just as USAID had outsourced much of its work in the years after the Cold War, the military also had turned to the private sector to perform work once done by its own personnel. Under the LOGCAP contract, which KBR held for all but a few years since the program's inception in 1985, contractors provide services ranging from building bases to cooking food and doing laundry. LOGCAP grew out of the post-Vietnam downsizing of the armed services, reflecting the government-wide growth of outsourcing, which would dramatically affect the war and reconstruction efforts in Iraq. In World War II, one contractor was deployed for every seven soldiers. During the 2003 invasion, that number had increased to one for every 2.4. By 2006, contractors outnumbered soldiers in Iraq."

The report noted that some government officials raised the concern of a potential conflict of interest because of Cheney's former position with Halliburton, but that "White House officials said the mission took priority over whatever political fallout might occur" from awarding contracts to KBR. Since winning the latest version of the LOGCAP contract in 2001, the government has ordered work from KBR worth more than $31 billion.

Government officials have raised many questions about KBR's fulfillment of its contracts, everything from billing for meals it didn't serve to charging inflated prices for gas to excessive administrative costs. Government auditors have noted that KBR refused to turn over electronic data in its native format and stamped documents as proprietary and secret when the documents would normally be considered public records.

Over the course of several years, the Defense Contract Audit Agency found that $553 million in payments should be disallowed to KBR, according to 2009 testimony by agency director April Stephenson before the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan
Halliburton sold KBR following criticism from the US Congress of the closeness of interests between the White House and Halliburton.

A good rule of thumb when dealing with Defence contractors...follow the money.
 
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AlienFTM

MIA
Book Reviewer
Three Tidworth barracks were originally built there in the Boer War era, specifically to allow Cav regts to practice their skills on Salisbury Plain - the closest UK has to veldt conditions.
19th Hussars were in Aliwal (first barracks. Turn right after the guardroom, on the Plain) when the First Unpleasantness kicked off. There's a picture of them in Light Dragoons by Mallinson. When 15th/19th Hussars moved in in 1976, I can tell you that had we been mounted on horses, we could have taken the exact same picture. I swear, not even a coat of paint.
 

AlienFTM

MIA
Book Reviewer
The names say it all

  • Aliwal
  • Bhurtpore
  • Jellalabad
Assaye was second, with an infantry battalion. Bhurtpore, with the Tidworth Armoured Regiment was third.
 
My fault. I split the box when I marshalled my mate in his Scimitar against it and cut power to half the barracks. :D
Glad to see you've kept your specialist skills going.
 

MrBane

LE
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Kit Reviewer
Reviews Editor
Three Tidworth barracks were originally built there in the Boer War era, specifically to allow Cav regts to practice their skills on Salisbury Plain - the closest UK has to veldt conditions.


The names say it all

  • Aliwal
  • Bhurtpore
  • Jellalabad
All demolished mid 2000's and replaced under a Super Garrison contract called Project Allenby Connaught

The original Garrison Officers Mess (Tedworth House) is now a personnel Recovery Centre run jointly by the RBL and H4H : Personnel Recovery <br>Centres</br>


I don't know who replaced the now defunct Carillion in the project.

Edited to add:

Ah, now I do....Kellogg,Brown & Root. (KBR)

The American Facilities Management company which made it's first fortune during the Vietnam War, and another providing the US Army with logistic facilities for the duration of the war in Iraq.

So the largest PFI contract ever let by MoD is now very largely in US hands...... a costs+ cash cow that runs till 2041......good 'ere innit?



KBR was aquired by Texan company called Halliburton.

Halliburton's former CEO was one Dick Cheney, Vice President during George Dubya Bush's administration.

This makes interesting reading: ( SOURCE dated 09 June 2010 )

Halliburton, KBR, and Iraq war contracting: A history so far
By Angie Drobnic Holan on Wednesday, June 9th, 2010 at 4:21 p.m.




Halliburton sold KBR following criticism from the US Congress of the closeness of interests between the White House and Halliburton.

A good rule of thumb when dealing with Defence contractors...follow the money.
Good info.

KBR - purveyors of best omelettes ever in Iraq
That wee Pakistani lad could fare knock up a pepperoni omlette and their dobhi wallahs were always open to a dollar in the hand for two hours service

I'm absolutely gutted HCR is gone from Windsor now. Ten year Herrick reunion in September at Hyde Park and before the move I had hoped to chance my arm at Combermere and pop in, maybe find some old faces and maybe get a wee look at it again and look back on how I developed and became a far better person within its walls.

Small things, y'know?

Also, yeah, Jackal is a pretty redundant vehicle now although it served its purpose well in Herrick, but **** going back to tracks. Maybe my views were tainted by those aluminium shit cans that kept falling apart, but there we go.

The hangars couldn't take Ajax anyway - or they could, but maybe four (?) per hangar giving you a total of 16 compared to, ooooh, eight or ten CVR(T) per hangar for 32 or 40, if I recall (very) roughly.

Although the concept of a 40 ton recce vehicle still boggles my mind.
 

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