licentiateship in city and guilds = nvq 4

#2
Depends who you are pitching to and whether the qualification is known or used in the particular industry. Civvies can sweat hard to get some qualifications that ex-forces just have to stump up some cash for. Some employers will know this, some won't.

I personally think that the Chartered Management Institute offers a better range of qualifications that fits a service pedigree and (critically) has several good paths for onward development, such as Chartered Manager accreditation. There is a DIN/DCI out about this (or there was).
 
#3
When I left I was offered Membership (2 up from Licentiaship) Its seriously worth converting your quals into civi speak. Im an absolute walking example of someone cl;awing their way back to the top trust me!!!

If you, or anyone, needs advice on sorting their shit out in civvy strasse then PM me trust me if I can do it so can you!!
 
#4
I have a Licentiateship of the Guild of Designer Craftsmen but what good is it to me?
 
#5
#7
I have a LCGI. I paid £50 for it through the military.

Erm, I don't think it's worth anything to be honest...
 
#9
Blind_Pew said:
I actually earned mine through hard graft.
So did I. I had to do my Senior Rates Command Course and actually get promoted to SNCO.

My point being the Open Uni give credit towards courses that are NVQ 4 equivalent and above. Any course they don't tend to give credit for tend to be not very good quals.

They don't recognise LCGI as a Level 4 qual...
 
#11
the_matelot said:
Blind_Pew said:
I actually earned mine through hard graft.
So did I. I had to do my Senior Rates Command Course and actually get promoted to SNCO.

My point being the Open Uni give credit towards courses that are NVQ 4 equivalent and above. Any course they don't tend to give credit for tend to be not very good quals.

They don't recognise LCGI as a Level 4 qual...
I have an LCGI Level 4, and it is quite a good qualification. Next time you are on the net, just type it in - there are a number of sites that relate to it.

As for the OU not recognising it - it is not on their CATS system but they will accept it as 60 points at level 1 (I know this because I submitted a letter in this respect for a Cpl who was embarking on a degree some years ago - who has since left the army and is pursuing a masters degree). They don't recognise lots of qualifications but that is no guage of how useful they may or may not be.

But getting back to the question, as it is more vocational than academic (although I recall I had to submit a written project for mine), you will need to show how your qualification can be used to benefit your employer if you want to use it on that basis alone.

Failing that, just list it on your CV - and be prepared to talk about it when asked.
 
#12
Sammy,

Have you got proof that the OU accepted it as 60 points at Level One?
 
#13
The OU do accept an NVQ Level 4 as a 60 point credit transfer. I can't prove this myself as I have not transferred any credit but a guy I know did transfer and he showed me his academic transcript.
 
#14
Rum,

I do know the OU accept a NVQ Level 4 as 60 points. My question was, did Sammy have proof that the OU award any points of credit for the C&G LCGI itself?
 
#15
Anyone know if OU award credit for the LCGI on its own?
 
#16
What about the MCGI, is it worth having?
 
#18
Yes the awards are worth having, if for nothing else than to show that you have achieved a measurable standard as described by the Gity & Guilds Institute. However! City & Guilds use terms such as "mapped to" and "comparable with"

The simple truth is they have set their awards against the competencies prescribed in the National Qualification Framework so for example a GCGI (I have one in HR) is equivelant to an Honours Degree by virtue of the fact it is comparable to an NVQ level 5/6, but it is actually neither! The Open University (or any University in fact) do not recognise the awards for credit transfer because C&G have chosen not to actually have the awards registered against the NQF in this country although (I am led to believe) this is imminently on the cards.

Be careful with your qualifications guys especially when researching for resettlement, there are academic quals which are valuable but take significant effort and time, vocational quals with little academic requirements which genuinely give recognition for your skills and there are memberships of professional bodies etc which are worth their weight in gold. For every one of those described there is a crap variant!

Look here for C&G senior awards and see how difficult it can be for a civvy or even a servicman who's promotion/ career courses haven't been mapped by C&G: http://www.city-and-guilds.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-0AC0478C-579CA009/cgonline/hs.xsl/643.html

Incidentally the Institute of Leadership and Management is a subsidiery of C&G so any of their Senior Awards in Leadership or Management are transferrable to membership at a cost! Each of the Armed Forces have corporate membership though at about half the cost so read those DIN's for details.
 

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