Libya - IRA Victims compensation claim.

#3
I have a feeling, not backed by any facts mind, that the govt will simply pay the libyans to compensate these people, after of course, the libyans put up a token protest.
 
#4
I don't want to diminish the suffering of these families,but can they proove that the Semtex all came from Libya? This would be a corner stone of the argument?
 
#5
A massive u turn on the part of Gordon and his friends. Believe me, this wasn't the plan until one or two people took him aside for some quiet advice about how to avoid a potential uprising by the good folk of this country.
The man and his cabinet are completely clueless when it comes to gauging public feeling.
Still it serves us all right for voting him in!!!!!!!
 
#6
vvaannmmaann said:
I don't want to diminish the suffering of these families,but can they proove that the Semtex all came from Libya? This would be a corner stone of the argument?
Yes they can, along with some shiney new AKs and RPGs.
 
#7
A massive U turn, but unfortunately he knows the chances of success for those who were affected by IRA bombs is nil to no chance.

Brown is supposed to be tough on Terrorism, yet he deals with states that for decades have promoted and supported terrorism across the world. If Brown had genuinely been against terrorism why are Adams and McGuinness etc. not in jail.

Brown is about gaining the headlines, unfortunately this government, like the last months of the last conservative one, is limited in capabilities and is directly responding to news stories. It is bereft of ideas, and deeply unpopular.

Anything to change the story of the headlines about Lockerbie at the moment.
 
#8
FFS GB is an idiot, why not change your mind once the key bargaining tool is gone. Absolutley no chance of success and wholly likely to p*ss of Lybians. Not a problem you might say , but why then was it decided when TB was at the helm not to bother because oil more important. Gov'ts are not necessarily about justice but about what is best for the whole population. I wish they would admit this and move on. I sympathise with the families but just think they are wasting their time and money.

Some leadership please, stop swithering (to use a good Scottish word) and try and stop us all looking like tw*ts for being led by a madman (see another thread). GB is just lurching from one jolly good wheeze to another.
 
#9
The Americans played hard ball and got $2.7 Bill for the 270 victims of the Lockerbie disaster.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/0907/1224253997241.html

Gordon Brown is a spineless to$$er.

"Jeffrey Donaldson, one of a number of MPs who intend to travel to Tripoli next month to pressure the Libyans to offer compensation, said Mr Brown had “followed the foreign office line that trade comes before victims.

“I want to know – and the victims are entitled to know – why Gordon Brown does not have the same desire to stand up for the victims of IRA terrorism as George Bush showed standing up for American victims,” he said.

Besides securing compensation for Lockerbie victims’ families, the US has also managed to get $10 million in compensation for Americans injured in IRA bombings in London during the 1980s and 1990s.

The outcome compares sharply with the experience of British victims injured in the same attacks, some of whom received payments of less than £3,000 to compensate them for serious injuries.

The Libyan-supplied Semtex was used in the 1987 Enniskillen poppy day attack, which killed 11 people; the June 1988 bombing in Lisburn which killed five soldiers taking part in a fun-run and another bombing a month later in Ballygawley which left eight soldiers dead."
 
#10
Well what do you expect, The Labour Party is effectively the Political Wing of the IRA.

Can we not have Broon removed from power on the grounds of his clear mental incapacity?
 
#11
Not knowing too much about this, how can they sue/pursue compensation from a country for an act carried out using it's equipment/weapons?

Not trying to downplay anything, but wouldn't this be akin to the UK being sued by someone who has been on the wrong end of a UK-sold SLR in Sierra Leon?
 
#12
righthandmarker said:
vvaannmmaann said:
I don't want to diminish the suffering of these families,but can they proove that the Semtex all came from Libya? This would be a corner stone of the argument?
Yes they can, along with some shiney new AKs and RPGs.
And a shed load of 7.62 x 54mm Medved ammo. For which PIRA had no weapons. And a load of SEMTEX and other stuff.

Google Eksund - but there were others!
 
#14
Tango said:
Not knowing too much about this, how can they sue/pursue compensation from a country for an act carried out using it's equipment/weapons?

Not trying to downplay anything, but wouldn't this be akin to the UK being sued by someone who has been on the wrong end of a UK-sold SLR in Sierra Leon?
i was wondering along the same lines
also has any attempt been made to make a civil claim against the 'known players' like with RIRA/mckevitt for omagh?
 
#16
cant help but post the daily mash article today

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...your-mouth,-gadaffi-tells-brown-200909072038/

COLONEL Gadaffi last night told Gordon Brown that it felt really good, but maybe he could try it with a couple of ice cubes in his mouth.
As the government was forced into a reluctant u-turn on asking Libya to pay compensation for arming the IRA, Gadaffi looked down at the prime minister and gently stroked the top of his head.......
Downing Street last night repeated its strenuous denial that the release of the Lockerbie bomber was connected to business deals with Libya, but said the prime minister was unavailable for comment as he was currently suffering from a throat infection.
 
#17
Are we going to get compensation from the septics for allowing the IRA to collect funds in the US, or for going on buying sprees for weapons that killed British soldiers?

Are forces casualties and their families going to see their fair wack of any money coming in from Libya?
 
#18
Col. G is never going to pony up.

How about suing all the chaps who contributed generously to NORAID?

American weapons seized from the trawler Marita Ann in 1984,
on display at Garda headquarters in Dublin.
 
#19
nebapneb said:
Tango said:
Not knowing too much about this, how can they sue/pursue compensation from a country for an act carried out using it's equipment/weapons?

Not trying to downplay anything, but wouldn't this be akin to the UK being sued by someone who has been on the wrong end of a UK-sold SLR in Sierra Leon?
i was wondering along the same lines
also has any attempt been made to make a civil claim against the 'known players' like with RIRA/mckevitt for omagh?
I seem to remember that after the collapse of the criminal trial,the lawyer for the victims said they were going to persue that option.
 
#20
I heard the BBC trot out a load of whaffle on this subject today and listed a selection of the most appaling bomb attacks - most of which relied primarily on large quantities of home made explosives such as ANS.

Rather than target a political leader or a country which we know is hostile to us (and always has been), shouldn't we look closer to home and find politcal leaders who led, funded and supported the terrorists - their political wing for example. I would love to see Jerry and Martin being held financially accountable for their colleagues actions and they can afford it after the fortune they have bled from the State. It would seem to be more morally defensible than getting into an arrse kicking competition over state sponsorship of terrorism. I don't think any international court or body would want to open that can of worms.
 

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