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This is going to be interesting....
The Defence team is shaping up rather nicely:
Sec of State for Defence: Dr Liam Fox. Tory
Long-time Defence Shadow, and was a Civvy MO, so knows at least a reasonable amount about defence.
Armed Forces Minister: Nick Harvey. LibDem
No experience of Service life whatsoever, previous PR/Comms guru of some sort.
Min IDS (Int'l Def & Sy): Looks like Gerald Howarth, Tory.
Very experienced MP, ex-RAFVR, Pilot, great fan of Maggie
US of S (Min Vet): looks like Andrew Robotham MP, Tory.
Ex- Coldstream Gds and them.....
Min DES (The Eqpt one): TBA
There's probably going to be a Lord in this post, but who? Dannatt, ennobled? Guthrie? An ex-MP made-up for the job? Interesting......
These are some quotes from Nick
This report shows the shambolic state of the UKâs defence equipment programme
It is exasperating to learn how pervasive the culture of denial and deception among MoD officials is when it comes to acknowledging the Â£21 billion funding gap in defence procurement
Labourâs slow response to a clear shortage of helicopters in Afghanistan has been shameful
The sad fact is that a lack of helicopters and armoured vehicles suitable for Afghanistan has persistently left our troops ill-equipped for their mission. Meanwhile, the Government has continued to fritter away vast amounts of money on Cold War projects like Eurofighter and Trident
This is yet another example of the Government making empty promises to our Armed Forces. The brave men and women who have risked life and limb in service of our country deserve better
Mine detection equipment is clearly a vital capability in Afghanistan. With IEDs now the biggest single threat our troops are facing, any failure to provide them with enough metal detectors is simply unforgivable
Our brave service men and women have suffered enough as a result of this Governmentâs disastrous record on military procurement.
The Government has presided over a decade of overstretch and spiralling costs without being straight with the public about the consequences
If the Government is not prepared to resource our commanders properly, it should not be putting troops on the front line
The military campaign cannot succeed without a political and civilian surge to win over moderate elements within the Taliban and regain the confidence of ordinary Afghans
It is painfully obvious that when our frontline troops are desperately short of helicopters and airlift, we should not be pushing ahead with the costly, Cold War irrelevances of Trident and Eurofighter
These aircraft are unnecessary Cold War relics. The Government has put Britain in a position where we are being forced to throw money at this massively expensive project while our troops on the front line are crying out for the helicopters and armoured vehicles they desperately need
While there is a need for modernisation of our reserve forces, any cut in numbers could be like a slap in the face considering the massive contribution they have made
This report is a damning indictment of the lack of leadership at the MoD. It is incredible that only 1 in 5 of MoD staff feel the department is well managed
It is a dereliction of the duty of care owed to our service personnel and their families that they should have to face a battle over good standard accommodation on the home front
It beggars belief that the MoD can blow so much on poor project management while our troops are risking their lives because of a lack of armoured vehicles and helicopters
This report shows that the MoD is riddled with incompetence
Unfortunately, the military price tag will not in itself bring success in Afghanistan. We need to see all NATO allies pulling their weight, alongside greater involvement of regional partners, including Iran, to create a stable Afghanistan
The MoDâs Defence Planning Assumptions have been operating in a parallel universe for many years now
When the Governmentâs terrible record on major IT projects is brought together with the MoDâs catalogue of failure on procurement, it is no surprise that we see this perfect storm of incompetence
On this occasion, the lions in Afghanistan have been failed by the donkeys in Whitehall
While the British nuclear fleet has a good safety record, if there were ever to be a bang it would be a mighty big one
We must be sure that an economic downturn does no
Er...apart from his visit to HERRICK in 2008...?
GWAR ? NAH - slaphead, same as ...um...me....
PS.....here's a picture of another Liberal MP* - just for those who think they're all tofu-munching,beardyweirdy,socks-with-sandals,tree-huggers:
*1904 - 1922
Err... I would not say that a visit (or two) to HERRICK was 'experience of Service life', and neither would many others! On those grounds, Tony Blair is an old sweat, having visited more wars than I have (many of which he helped start ).
Er...neither would I..( having declined the opportu8nity to go and get my picture with Phoney Tony when he pitched up in Eye-rack during my sunshine break)...but I would say that it was a reasonable indication that he had, at least, taken the trouble to get his arrse in gear to find out from those on the ground what the realities were....and therefore knows more about Service life than the average champagne socialist Islington chatterati.....is all. He's a poli...not by their words, but by their deeds shall ye know them.....Watch & shoot....
Why the fÃ¼ck am I an option? Is this that fantasy-arrse-government thing again?
That picture has him talking to guys who were on the ground but seeing as they are from B Coy, 5 SCOTS (The Angry and Suffering Highlanders) it is questionable whether he understood any of the answers...
And if I remember my history WSC's 2i/c in 6 RSF was Sir Archibald Sinclair - later leader of the Liberal party and, as Secretary of State for Air in Churchill's wartime coalition, the last Liberal to hold a cabinet post (until now).
Nick Harvey has also met and spoken to ARRSErs on several issues.
From what I have heard he is a good guy, but who was responsible for the LibDem Defense manifesto policy?
I assume Harvey had a say....?
Got to be better than his predecessor, an (allegedly) bullying, vile control freak with foul temper who was the most reviled Defence minister in the previous administration and held in utter contempt by many who had the misfortune to deal with him. Delighted to see that he lost his seat at the last election.
How many more times? The UK CAN NOT get out of the Eurofighter contract without spending more money on the cancellation that it would spend on buying the bloody things! And irrelevance? Let's see how well you do calling for CAS when all the Harrier and Tornado airframes are life expired....
As an ex MoD Contracts officer I'm always intrigued when I hear people say this ...... and it usually turns out that they are either BAe personnel, former senior RAF officers who were closely involved in protecting the golden goose or have some other close interest in EFA.
The Typhoon deal was, as you'll imagine w-a-a-a-a-y above my paygrade - but the principles remain pretty much the same.
Firstly, every MoD ctt I ever saw - and every commercial ctt I was ever asked to review, had a Break Clause.
In MoD's own contracts this was called SC56. On a large value ctt it might be a year's notice in writing - but it was always there.
Secondly, given that Typhoon is a multinational contract, I would be interested to know WHOSE law is applicable ........from dim and distant memory I remember earnest instructors emphasising to me that
' penalties are inadmissable in English law '
Lastly, people over here need to appreciate that what is in British Aerospace's interest - ain't necessarily in the UK national interest. The company is now > 50% owned in the U.S.
If ever there was a deal that needed a fresh pair of eyes, it is this one.....and if MoD's lawyers are shrugging their shoulders and telling HMG that there is nothing to be done - SHOOT THEM and get some new lawyers who are less supine.
To paraphrase Nelson ' there is nothing more chancey than a sea-fight - unless it be a legal judgement'
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