Looks like the Lib Dem's report on the Armed Forces is a wafer thin sep in the right direction, have a look in the Times I don't see any extra money on the table, but I do see lots of usefull bricks to throw. Interesting side bar. The first Labour Government elected post war were elected because thousands of serving personnel wanted change. A large chunk of those voters kept voting Labout until they died. So why does the current Labour party loath the bedrock of it's own political successes ?